Reagan's Legacy - How will he be remembered?

[johncmcleod]

FDR supported Stalin, who murdered millions.

Yeah, FDR did support some brutal dictators. His domestic policies were great but he did do some bad things.

[Verto]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Roosevelt was far greater.

Oh great, another Rooseveltphile claiming FDR won the Second World War. Like that invalid could accomplish anything.






Hey! That's surprisingly easy to do. And too think Sava's been having all the fun!

[Sava]

Hey! That's surprisingly easy to do. And too think Sava's been having all the fun!

I'm telling you... trolling is great fun.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Actually Reagan and the CIA Director realized it and created the SDI plan for that express purpose. For all intents and purposes, SDI was overstated to cause fear.

Nice hindsight

[Dis]

hindsight? They knew the technology didn't exist.

[Dis]

Also reagan was one of my favourite Ex-presidents in the SNL cartoon. What will they do without him? well they have been hurting since Nixon died. I don't think they make anymore.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Nice hindsight

Well you can call it what you want, but all you have to do is read what the CIA Director wrote at the time. And Diss is right. The tech did not exist, it was all 'research'. They used a weapon down the pike to scare the **** out of the Soviets. It was brilliant.

And still no refutations on arguments dealing with the people Reagan helped murder.

Only if you really care about that sort of things. Me being an ends justify the means type of person, it doesn't.

[Ramo]

I suppose that I haven't eulogized Reagan yet, so I'll take the opportunity.

Ronnie started his political career just as he ended it, ardently fighting against the poor. His first major gig was as a spokesman for GM to go around campaigning against unionization. And in his first year of office, he used Taft-Hartley to break up PATCO strike. And in the following decade organized labor was mercilessly slaughtered by old Gipper.

Social security was going up on the chopping block, though it survived despite his best efforts. Of course, he was more successful in other matters. Ketchup would become a "vegetable" instead of a "condiment" to cut $1.5 billion from federal funding for school lunches for the poor. The tax burden would be switched further from the rich to the poor with regressive payroll tax hikes. 'Course, we could always afford corporate pork and massive protectionism, funded by unprecedented budget deficits.

In foreign policy, the theme was no different. In El Salvador, Reagan propped up a brutal regime that massacred peasants when they got uppity. The same assaults against "communist subversion" happened in Honduras with its Batallion 316. And after the Sandanistas kicked our boy, Somoza out of Nicaragua, Ronnie sent in right wing death squads to slaughter up and down the country.

These Contras were funded by arm sales in Iran, so that they could slaughter as many Iraqis as humanly possible. And we would fund Iraq, so they would slaughter as many Iranians as humanly possible. A million dead, and power parity wasn't even achieved given Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in a couple years. And when Saddam went after Kurds and Marsh Arabs, that was just fine. Of course, the Khomenists weren't the only Islamists Reagan funded. Half a billion per year went to the Mujahadeen, helping give birth to Islamic terrorism as we know it.

The song remains the same in Chen's South Korea, Suharto's Indonesia, Doe's Liberia, Apartheid South Africa, etc., etc.

And, of course, there's the almost extending the Cold War for a few decades through his initial stance towards Gorby, as I mentioned earlier in the thread.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

dont forget massive deficit spending from someone who was supposedly fiscally conservative

[Alexander's Horse]

don't forget Nancy and her astrologer

[joncha]

This one?

[Alexander's Horse]

yep, that's the one

She set the dates for super power summits as I recall

[Lawrence of Arabia]

when america collapses in 100 years, everyone will look back at reagan as the starting point of this collapse.

[Ramo]

I was reading Z Mag today. This is just surreal, as it came out just days before Reagan's death:



Note #2.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And Diss is right. The tech did not exist, it was all 'research'. They used a weapon down the pike to scare the **** out of the Soviets. It was brilliant.

Brilliant?

Everybody knew SDI didn't work, and wouldn't for the foreseeable future. That included the Soviets.