Reagan's Legacy - How will he be remembered?

[Imran Siddiqui]

On military? Don't mind it. What I DO mind is increased government spending on domestic programs.

[johncmcleod]

On military? Don't mind it.

Our military by far is the largest in the world and we spend more on it than the rest of the world combined. Why do we need military budget increases?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by johncmcleod
rest of the world combined.

Wrong

[Jaguar]

Indeed. If you're going to cite statistics, they need to be accurate.

[johncmcleod]

Sorry. The point is we spend gross amounts of money on things that destroy instead of using it to help people.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Ignoring the false statistic, military budget increases are good, because no one is going to jack about the bad guys in the world outside of the US. We have to be in the forefront.

[Dis]

I think Reagan was a great president. And yes I also think Thatcher was a great prime minister. So you know what side I lean on.

but what I am really dismayed at is the response to the Beirut bombings. 0 response. Marines I talked to in the navy wanted to kick some ass after that happened, but we did nothing. I understand his main focus was on communism, but we should have done something about the terrorist threat.

So I don't think he was that "tough" of a president. We could have taken care of the terrorist problem back then. Between him and Jimmy Carter terrorists got the idea that they could push the U.S. around and we'd back down. Which was true. Because of this, I have to pace partial blame of 9/11 on Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter.

[johncmcleod]

Ignoring the false statistic, military budget increases are good, because no one is going to jack about the bad guys in the world outside of the US. We have to be in the forefront.

How can you spew out such nonsense? We are the bad guys. We install the brutal dictators and support them. There is a reason we're the most hated nation in the world. We are at least party responsible for the deaths of millions of people.

Do you think American presidents will actually go out and try to be the protectors of freedom in the world? It is like asking Wal-Mart to take over the American economy and then use this power to do good and give everyone fair wages, low prices, and serve the poor.

[johncmcleod]

The more you fight terrorists, especially Muslim ones, the more people around the world see the US fighting and killing people, and the more they hate us and more people join terrorist groups. We go around fighting Al Qaeda we just make it look like a war on Islam and we piss off a lot of Muslims, who in turn join organizations like Al Qaeda and kill innocent people.

[Imran Siddiqui]

We are the bad guys.

Ah, lovely. I'll ask you the same thing you asked me:

How can you spew out such nonsense?

Why don't you ask the Kuwaitis if we are the bad guys. Why don't you ask the Poles, the Lithuianians, etc. Why don't you ask the Taiwanese?

We are the greatest force of good in the world. Without us, the whole thing goes to ****. We are the biggest advocate for good change in the world today. Our central role in the fall of Communism makes us the good guys by itself.

There is a reason we're the most hated nation in the world.

Yeah, we because we won't let the bastards get away with their ****. Because we dare raise our voices and say "That's not right".

[Imran Siddiqui]

The more you fight terrorists, especially Muslim ones, the more people around the world see the US fighting and killing people, and the more they hate us and more people join terrorist groups

That's nice. So we should let terrorists just run wild, eh? Jeez, what planet are you on?

[Nubclear]

Imran, I'm going to assume your trolling him and thus don't actually believe much of what you say

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jaguar
UR, do you happen to know during which administration the US National Debt reached its peak? I'll give you three guesses.

You missed the point entirely. The point was not whether Reagan ran up the greatest amount of debt, the point was his supporters neglect, intentionally or otherwise, Reagan's many mistakes and flaws.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jaguar
Indeed. If you're going to cite statistics, they need to be accurate.

The fact that it is more than the rest of the top 10 combined does say a lot.

[Patroklos]

You missed the point entirely. Reagons detractors ignore all his myriad accomplishments and achievements.

I suppose a few thousand in Central America dead outweighs the 3 billion saved every day of his presidency, as well as being responsible for the ending of that threat. If you can't make those trades, then your not leader material. You are definitely forum anonymous detractor for the sake of argument material, but not leader