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In the early to mid 90s, the CPUSA found his application card and showed it to the press. I remember laughing my ass off at the time. They said they hadn't remember it, but when Moriss' book came out, they went back and looked through the files, and sure enough, there it was.
Too bad they hadn't found it in 1980. Woulda sunk Reagan.
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I think that htey wil build up the old Gipper to besome great f***ing hero, jsut liek they would any other guy. Especially nowadays, FOX news would boycott you, and declare you to be some sort of sleper cell Muslim if you ever thought of criticisning any ex president.
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Yeah, that's the Slate article I found as well, but I didn't cite it because, well, note that they have a hard time believing the spin that the CPUSA (and Edmund Morris) is trying to place on the matter:
Morris does recount his attempts to nail down Fast's story. He describes conversations with three Reagan acquaintances, including the actor Eddie Albert. Morris does not say that Albert was a party member, but he strongly hints that Albert and his wife operated on "behalf of the CPUSA." Albert confirmed for Morris that Reagan did indeed discuss joining the party and was ultimately dissuaded. But Morris writes that when he tried to question the aged actor further, "Albert caged up as expected."
Oddly, when I called Albert, he was anything but cagey. In fact he couldn't stop screaming into the phone: "Reagan was a nice guy, but he was stupid. He didn't have a clue about any Russia business. He talked about being a Communist. We all did. But he never did anything about it. One night my wife sat down and told him the party was a load of crap." But was this just a ploy? Were Albert and his wife secretly Communists, conspiring to keep Reagan out of the party? "No." Did Morris ask Albert this question? "[Morris] is an ***hole," says Albert. And even Fast can't confirm what Morris implies, "I have no idea whether Eddie was in the party or not."
Eddie Albert may be lying, of course, and corroborating the Fast version of events may not be possible. But there are gaping holes in Morris' reporting that can easily be filled with a few phone calls. For instance, Fast told Morris that Reagan dealt with a local party leader, "a well-known screenwriter, a playwright, a historian." Fast wouldn't identify this person to Morris and Morris doesn't mention any attempt to track him down. But only one Hollywood character fits this bill: John Howard Lawson, the dean of Hollywood Reds who reemerged to become Reagan's political foe in the late '40s. And Fast confirmed to me that he was talking about Lawson.
Or Morris could have contacted Dorothy Healey, who was the chair of the Southern California Communist Party during the '40s. Healey told me: "This has to be apocrypha. It's nonsense. Of course, we never rejected people for being too flaky. And if Reagan had been rejected, I would have definitely heard about it." And in an interview, the authorized biographer concedes that he didn't investigate thoroughly: "Arthur Schlesinger once told me that he had dirt on Reagan buried in his filing system. But I never went after him."
Although the Communist Party episode is one of Morris' most oft-mentioned scoops, he didn't even have it first. Howard Fast told essentially the same story in the New York Observer eight years ago. (And probably has been dining out on it for decades.) Yet Morris did amazingly little to try to nail it down. But who has time to dig for facts when you've got to make up not one but two different fantasies?
Anyway, if your cite in support of this theory concludes with the above passage I wouldn't bet the mortgage re: the accuracy of the story.
Che is an habitual liar, but it also goes by the name of propaganda.
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Ultimately it matters not, as the CPUSA found his registration card.
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Che is an habitual liar, but it also goes by the name of propaganda.
GFY
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Well, I have no problem believing that Reagan might have been attracted to the CPUSA back in the thirties, even to the point of filling out some registration card he was handed at a cocktail party or other registration drive... times were hard, the Soviet Union looked like it might have some answers (even though they were in the midst of yet another of their purges), and Marxism was then fashionable among the Hollywood set. However, to make the claim that he applied to the party and was roundly rejected for "being stupid" and that nobody thought to mention it for the next 55 years really stretches credulity, Che, especially since the revelation would've stopped the Reagan Revolution before it began and would've benefitted a LOT of people.
reagan was a idiot, whose acting skills have fooled everyone into thinking that he was a genius. thumbs up for fiscally resposible conservatives, cuz we all know he was one of them http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa013es.html
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Originally posted by JohnT
However, to make the claim that he applied to the party and was roundly rejected for "being stupid" and that nobody thought to mention it for the next 55 years really stretches credulity, Che, especially since the revelation would've stopped the Reagan Revolution before it began and would've benefitted a LOT of people.
Well, he may not have been rejected for being a flake. That comes from Howard Fast (a former Commie). As I said, the CP itself seems to have been unaware that Reagan had filled out a card.
But yeah, it mighta been nice if they found it in 1980. Lord knows what four more years of Carter would have done to us though.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
In fact, almost half of the increased revenues of the Reagan era came from Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes, which were increased by President Reagan and Congress in 1983.
Sava's condemnation of Reagan is the best endorsement for the former president, at least that I can think of.
sure, but only if you think that bigger government, increased taxes, supporting dictators (and mass murder), and irresponsible spending are good things...
It's my experience that most reagan-lovers choose to be stupid. You've got a choice folks. Be stupid, or not...
Well, yeah, he raised the SS tax, but so did every administration before him except for FDR (and he started the program). So what?
Hell, Truman raised the taxes by fifty percent, from 2% to 3%, in 1950 alone. Kennedy/LBJ more than doubled the tax, from 4% at the start of 1961 to 8.4% by the end of 1968. Reagan only increased the tax by 15% during his entire administration (the 1983 increase was 9%, the '86 increase was 6%), far less than those across the aisle did during theirs.
Like I said, your posts aren't really worth responses, so I'm going to drop this debate and declare myself not just the winner, but also the more knowledgeble.
To look at who's choosing to remain stupid, all you need to do is look in the mirror.
Originally posted by JohnT
Well, yeah, he raised the SS tax, but so did every administration before him except for FDR (and he started the program). So what?
Hell, Truman raised the taxes by fifty percent, from 2% to 3%, in 1950 alone. Kennedy/LBJ more than doubled the tax, from 4% at the start of 1961 to 8.4% by the end of 1968. Reagan only increased the tax by 15% during his entire administration (the 1983 increase was 9%, the '86 increase was 6%), far less than those across the aisle did during theirs.
Again: so what?
Reagan's net increase was from a rate of 11.70% to 15.30%... a larger percentage point increase than all other administrations you spoke of. It's intellectually dishonest to say, "Well Truman increased it 50% bu Reagan only increased it 15%" when Reagan's overall percentage point increase was larger. But then again, I expect intellectual dishonest from reagan fans. The facts are against them so they manipulate numbers for their own political agenda. Your manipulation might work on a the dumb, sheeplike masses of reagan supporters... but not me. Sorry... come again.
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