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  • #46
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    you wonder why everybody thinks Americans are stupid


    Well why should the government get involved in electricity generation?
    because they could do it cheaper than for-profit enterprises
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #47
      The problem with nuclear power, in the United States at least, is that it is subsidized even realtive to other forms of electricity generation.
      This is a definite consideration. I will have to think about that.

      The problem from my perspective re fossil fuel taxes is that the revenues will go to the general fund rather than to solving the underlying cost for which they are recovering. If taxation solved the problem, then I would have expected Europe to be more ahead of the game with regard to energy technology advances, for instance.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #48
        water vapor a greenhouse gas?


        Yes, duh!
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          water vapor a greenhouse gas?


          Yes, duh!
          but, as I think someone pointed out, the amount of water vapor created by nuclear power would be minimal compared to the amount of water vapor created by Earth's weather systems (evaporation, the water cycle, etc...).
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #50
            But what would happen if everything got turned over to nuclear power?
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              But what would happen if everything got turned over to nuclear power?
              It would probably rain a little bit more?
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Sava
                It would probably rain a little bit more?
                Well, you can say the same about all other global warming....though that "little bit" turns out to be a *****.
                If you don't like reality, change it! me
                "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by GePap


                  Well, you can say the same about all other global warming....though that "little bit" turns out to be a *****.
                  But does nuclear power produce less greenhouse gas (total) than coal or oil?
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #54
                    Depends on the strenght and quantity of the greenhouse gases- my guess, the overall imput is less than hydrocarbon powered energy plants.

                    Of course, switching to nuclear doeas nothing about greenhouse from transporation, which is the main problem.
                    If you don't like reality, change it! me
                    "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                    "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                      You mean, politically, or economically?


                      Well the politics of the economics . Americans probably wouldn't go for massively state-run electricity generation. They'd see their taxes rise and ask why can't the private market do it.
                      Which ignores the fact that state run electricty in the U.S. is vastly cheaper than private electricty.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by GePap
                        Depends on the strenght and quantity of the greenhouse gases- my guess, the overall imput is less than hydrocarbon powered energy plants.

                        Of course, switching to nuclear doeas nothing about greenhouse from transporation, which is the main problem.
                        Nuclear power could be used to produce hydrogen for hydrogen fuel cell cars. One of the drawbacks to hydrogen fuel cells is that current manufacturing processes are powered by mostly dirty power.
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #57
                          Water is a greenhouse gas, but its also in equilibrium. Pumping out steam does not increase the amount of water in the atmosphere globally.

                          The same is not true for pumping out CO2, which is not in equilibrium and its quantities do increase in the atmosphere globally as more is released from non-renewable sources.
                          One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                            Which ignores the fact that state run electricty in the U.S. is vastly cheaper than private electricty.
                            It's impossible, commie. You know the private market does everything best.
                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #59
                              Water is a greenhouse gas, but its also in equilibrium. Pumping out steam does not increase the amount of water in the atmosphere globally.

                              That's not entirely correct. By putting out hot vapor, you shift that equillibrium.
                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • #60
                                You don't move the equilibrium, you only change the short term variables.

                                To put it another way, its not a cumulative or persistant effect.
                                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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