FDA! No gay sperm donations allowed.

[Japher]

If gayness is biological and not a choice it is the right of the parent and the reponsibility of the FDA to know and prove such, and to indicate this when the sperm is received.

[MrFun]

BS Japher

[Japher]

Is it?

I answer to the FDA. I think I know a thing or two about labeling and purity laws.

Besides, I'm not the one who said gays are born that way.

[MrFun]

I recently came to the conclusion that the reductionist focus on "it's not a choice" as justification for equal rights is flawed, anyway.

Sexual orientation is not a choice -- but there are better ways, I think, to argue for equal rights.

[chequita guevara]

I don't think people inherit gayness. I mean, how would they?

[Japher]

Gayness is a mental disorder, and those are possible to inherit, i.e. bipolar.

(How's that for a troll?)

[Asher]

Originally posted by Japher
Is it?

I answer to the FDA. I think I know a thing or two about labeling and purity laws.

Besides, I'm not the one who said gays are born that way.

I'm sorry, why does a chemical engineer have some kind of superiority when talking about legal issues and biological issues? I must miss the connection.

So you deal with the FDA at work. So what. I deal with LLNL and NASA, but I'm no nuclear scientist nor rocket scientist, and I don't use those as excuses.

Also, being 'born that way' is different -- much different -- than saying it's hereditary. If it was hereditary, I'm not sure how long that'd last in the gene pool.

[SlowwHand]

I think what Japher is saying is, truth in packaging.

[Solomwi]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
It's not a choice, but it isn't hereditary either. Autism isn't hereditary, its just that some people are more suseptible to it...just because someone who's gay has a kid doesn't mean that kid will definitly be gay any more than someone who is straight will definitly have a straight kid.

I don't disagree with your assertion here. However, labeling it as a choice precludes any genetic component, which is the only possible logic behind fearing "gay babies" from "gay sperm". My point was that if the right wing is convinced it's a choice, as many of them seem to be, then it's pretty silly to ban the sperm of gay men based on fears of increasing the possibility of the produced child being gay.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Solomwi
Cali, you just hit on the flaw in Thorn's statement (assuming it wasn't just a throwaway). Isn't the right wing position generally that homosexuals choose their orientation?

The religious right wing, yes.

[Asher]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I think what Japher is saying is, truth in packaging.

We may as well label the anonymous donor jars with other pertinent sexual information like penis size, how many times they've had sex, what their favorite sexual position is, etc. if we're going to care which gender they have sex with.

I think that's pretty important.

Also, pre-marital sex. As a Christian, I wouldn't want no daughter out whoring it up at age 26 by sleeping with her boyfriend she's engaged to, that would devastate our family.

[Solomwi]

Yes, I should have clarified that, Cali.

Edit: My original point was based on the views of the religious right and the sway it has over this administration.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I don't think people inherit gayness. I mean, how would they?

Maybe they inherit closeted gayness.

[Solomwi]

We may as well label the anonymous donor jars with other pertinent sexual information like penis size, how many times they've had sex, what their favorite sexual position is, etc. if we're going to care which gender they have sex with.

How much biological information is currently presented to potential recipients?

If it goes as far as hair and eye color, for instance, yes, I think orientation (assuming for the purpose of the question that orientation is biological) should be revealed to potential recipients.

[Solomwi]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I don't think people inherit gayness. I mean, how would they?

It's a recessive gene... like communism.