John Kerry is so compassionate

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by The diplomat
You really think that the republicans engineered the vote to be one vote shy of 60 deliberately? All you would need is to have one republican change his mind and vote for it, and this "scheme" would fail.

Certainly. Unlike us $%^& Democrats, the Repuplicans do a much better job of instilling party discipline. You don't defy the leadership very often and get away with it. They have a lot of influence on how much pork goes your way, how much the state and national committees will kick your way in reelection, etc. With rare exceptions, you play ball with the party leadership, or they stick the bat up your ass.

One Republican could have changed his mind anyway and made it 60-39, but that didn't happen, did it? I find the magic one vote margin to be just a little too cozy.

Regardless, Kerry would have been better off politically to vote for it, so as to at least be able to tout that he voted even if the bill did not pass, than to lament that unemployed are not getting their benefits when he did not even bother to vote at all.

I agree with you there, but Kerry is in a real tough position. How often has a sitting minority party senator successfully ran against an incumbent President? Kerry is in the position of either getting yanked off the campaign every time the Republicans want to pull his string, or blowing off important votes. Either way, he hurts, but this was one that was big enough that he should have made a show of it.

Dumb Yankee liberals, but then I repeat myself twice over, again.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Jaguar

She paid 15%. My family earns less than a tenth of what she does, and we paid ~40%.

And whom's does she have to thank? Why, BUsh of course!

Myabe some of hear earning are incorporated? That way she gets to pay for various things beofre taxes, cutting down her tax bill significantly.

[Sava]

I think Jaguar may be talking about total taxes... this, AFAIK, is about Teresa Heinz Kerry's federal income taxes. This doesn't include payroll, state, local, or other taxes taken off of paychecks.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Jaguar

She paid 15%. My family earns less than a tenth of what she does, and we paid ~40%.

And who is responsible for this tax scale and the current tax laws? Seems like one party has run Congress for ten years now, and had the White House for over three.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by GePap


And whom's does she have to thank? Why, BUsh of course!

Myabe some of hear earning are incorporated? That way she gets to pay for various things beofre taxes, cutting down her tax bill significantly.

GePap, are you drunk or something?

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


And who is responsible for this tax scale and the current tax laws? Seems like one party has run Congress for ten years now, and had the White House for over three.

Don't try to make me responsible for the actions of the Republican party.

A problem that both parties run into is that they point out people like Warren Buffet, and say that he can easily afford more taxes. Then they use that image to get away with taxing everybody who earns more than 80k.

If the Democrats were in charge the past ten years, we would be paying 70% and she would be paying 50. Woop-de-****ing-doo.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Naaah, those rates only kick in when somebody a few generations down the road has to finally start dealing with the deficits we're running now.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by JohnT
I'm glad I made my arguments before I read that article. Perhaps I'm in the wrong business.

Oh, yeah: link.

Yeah but I beat you to it.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Naaah, those rates only kick in when somebody a few generations down the road has to finally start dealing with the deficits we're running now.

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
If you're making a little under 500,000 a year (10%), don't ***** about your taxes. You're like that fat guy *****ing that his seven course meal was a course short.

Both of you seem to think that I'm complaining about my taxes being too high. On the contrary, I'm complaining about Heinz's taxes being too low.

So chegitz has compared me to a fat guy, despite the fact that we are in agreement.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You really think that the republicans engineered the vote to be one vote shy of 60 deliberately?

Of course! It's brilliant politics. I'd hope the Republicans engineered this if I backed Bush this year.

[Imran Siddiqui]

*Imran gives Jaguar a cookie*

[Jaguar]

Thank you

[MrFun]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


You need better accountants. If you're making a little under 500,000 a year (10%), don't ***** about your taxes. You're like that fat guy *****ing that his seven course meal was a course short.

ouch -- retract those claws, Che and stop using Jaguar as a scratching post

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Jaguar
Thank you

Cookies make you fat, Jag.

Next course?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Not if they are LOW CARB cookies!