Holy ****, did anyone see the latest Something Awful weekend web?

[Az]

This is actually a VERY interesting subject of discussion. Seriously.

[Fake Boris]

[Thorn]

I read a story about a 15 year old raping two 8 year old boys... is this considered pedeophilia, and does it deserve the same treatment as adults do?

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Thorn
I read a story about a 15 year old raping two 8 year old boys... is this considered pedeophilia, and does it deserve the same treatment as adults do?

Yes. The 15 year old is physically mature (well reasonably) while the 8 year olds are clearly not.
Besides if you're doing it when you're 15, it's quite likely you're going to do it when you're older too. It's the same thing as being gay. Kids who find themselves gay will stay (usually ) gay when they're adults.

[Az]

Wtf could she've done with 2 8-year-olds? wait, I don't want to know.

[Traianvs]

Ah eh it's a girl? Thought it was a male kid

[Docfeelgood]

Touch one of my kids and you will never walk again

[DinoDoc]

Are you people still on the sexual predators are people too kick?

[Thorn]

It was male... and he was arrested and sent to a adult prision.......

[Vesayen]

Reading that page makes me feel ill... ugh.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by General Ludd


Wasn't there a story posted a while ago about a mother who met up with a guy online and agred to meet with him and let him rape her 7 year old or something?


Or was that another forum?

That sounds like Apolyton to me. I should check out the Other Games forum more often.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by JohnT
Hell, I'll go with castration. No problem there.

Sig material!

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Azazel
I guess our disagreement stems from this:
"Some people molest children and are not paedophiles."

I wholly disagree with this statement.

You don't understand pedophilia from a psychological standpoint, only (perhaps) from a legal one. Most people who molest children are not strictly speaking pedophiles in the psychological sense. Pedophilia (the psychological disorder) requires an attraction to children that overwhelms all other forms of sexual desire. In other words pedophiles are fixated exclusively on pre-pubescent children. It is a fairly rare disorder, but when combined with a willingness to act upon the urges there is little hope for treatment to stave off a criminal rampage. Recidivism is over 80% for true pedophiles.

Pedophilia is thus different than the most common form of sexual abuse of children, which is older children (most common age is 14 years old for perpetrators) acting out sexually on younger children. Most of these older children were themselves molested. It also differs from the all too common tales of sexual predators from priests to creepy soccer coaches who victimize children because they have access to them and a need to victimize. These are people who can and often do have "normal" sexual relationships with other adults, but nonetheless have a tendency to behave in an extremely destructive manner if given an opportunity to do so. The psychological outlook for these people is much better than that for strictly defined pedophiles. With the proper mix if legal consequences and therapy the recidivism rate of these people is about one in five.

[Az]

I am not sure that you can define a paedophile as a person who's attracted to, and ONLY to younger kids.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Azazel
I guess our disagreement stems from this:

Some people molest children and are not paedophiles.

I wholly disagree with this statement.

And I wholly disagree with your disagreement Az. A significant share of child molesters aren't necessarily attracted to children, but do it for the feeling of power. Much like these straight prisoners who rape other inmates to show who's the boss.