Noah's Arc

[Japher]

Sorry if this is old:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- An expedition is being planned for this summer to the upper reaches of Turkey's Mount Ararat where organizers hope to prove an object nestled amid the snow and ice is Noah's Ark.

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Would the discovery of Noah's arc do anything for the validity of the Bible? Would it make you believe that Jesus was the son of god? What implications, if any, would such a discovery have on your personal beliefs?

[Boris Godunov]

*ahem*, Japher...

"Ark" - A large vessel
"Arc" - A curve or segment of a circle

[reds4ever]

Unless it says 'Noah woz 'ere' on it somewhere, it's just a boat (at best)

[Boris Godunov]

And if this expedition wants to waste its time and money, so be it. What will be quite tragic is if someone dies during the expedition, as Mt. Ararat is a very dangerous climb.

[SlowwHand]

It would have nothing, per se, to validate Christ.
Old Testament vs. New.


The nay-sayers would say a tornado threw some fishing boat on the mountain anyway.

[Japher]

"Ark" - A large vessel
"Arc" - A curve or segment of a circle

Damn!@!!

(See Theben's Sig.)

[SlowwHand]

It's ok, Japher. A search on Noah's Arc or Ark turns up hits.
Don't let Boris piss in your Post Toasties.

[Boris Godunov]

I want to know who exactly are going on the expedition. If they're taking reputable scientists to study any possible findings, I'll be very interested to see what is said. If it's all religious people who already have their mind made up, I'll take anything they report with heavy grains of salt. We've already had Creationist liars like Kent Hovind trying to scam people with claims of finding hard Biblical evidence.

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
The nay-sayers would say a tornado threw some fishing boat on the mountain anyway.

Yep. Non-believing skeptics will always try to twist the truth when it comes to something like this. And then their lies get out into the media. And the media has such a powerful influence on some that non-believers end up taking such lies as "fact."

Pretty pathetic, eh Slowwhand?

[Solomwi]

I don't think it's hard for even atheists to give credit to the bible for having at least some historical accounts right. I saw an interesting program a while back postulating that the "great flood" was caused by a land bridge across the Bosporus giving way, leading to the creation of the Black Sea. If there's truth to that, certainly it would seem to those in the area that the entire world had flooded. From that point, how much of the Noah story is legend built around someone with a) enough foresight to see that such a thing might happen (similar to the Y2K bunker dwellers, but validated) or b) enough luck to have a boat available when it did start to happen, I don't know.

That is all to say it might validate the bible account historically, but not theologically.

[Japher]

That is all to say it might validate the bible account historically, but not theologically.

Yeah, but I think Catholics already confuse history with the theology and uses one to write the other. If they find the ark it would be strange, a bunch of Jews and bible thumpers saying I told you sold, and will add an increase boost to the validity of their texts, historical or theological.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
Yep. Non-believing skeptics will always try to twist the truth when it comes to something like this. And then their lies get out into the media. And the media has such a powerful influence on some that non-believers end up taking such lies as "fact."

"Non-believing skeptics" would be redundant.

And just what "lies" are out in the media from non-believers? We caught you propagating the lies of Hovind on this very message board years ago, so for you to accuse others of lying is pretty rich.

[SlowwHand]

And what of Moses leading his people across the parted sea?
I've read accounts that the parting happens on ocassion due to geological conditions.
If that's so, does it discredit the event? I say no.
The fact that it happened at the time Moses and gang needed it to happen still constitutes a miracle.

[Boris Godunov]

He didn't lead them across a parted ocean, he led them across the Reed Sea (supposedly). Which isn't nearly so momentous a task to cross as the Red Sea or an ocean is.

[SlowwHand]

I changed it to Sea, because I knew some jackass would make a big damned deal over it.
Of course, it was no worse than Reed Sea.


Boris is right on 1 count.
Moses didn't use an arc welder in construction.