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    • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
      You got your commie spy bug planted in the situation room again. How was the issue raised?
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      • I again go back to my previous discussion.

        "Bob Woodward, in Bush at war, writes that on September 12, the National Security Council had two meetings. During the second one, D. Rumsfeld raised the question of Iraq; he asked why the US would attack only Al-Qaida and not Iraq. And he made the assumption that they could take advantage of the opportunity offered by the terrorists attacks to attack Saddam immediately."


        Raising the question is not the same thing as advocacy. Do you have a better quote from the book?
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        • Ah, but Rummy did say we should go after Iraq



          Is that accepted, known or thought to be true by the Commission?

          I ask because I really would like to know why they didn't furrow their brows when Rice said something contrary to that.
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          • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
            I again go back to my previous discussion.

            "Bob Woodward, in Bush at war, writes that on September 12, the National Security Council had two meetings. During the second one, D. Rumsfeld raised the question of Iraq; he asked why the US would attack only Al-Qaida and not Iraq. And he made the assumption that they could take advantage of the opportunity offered by the terrorists attacks to attack Saddam immediately."


            Raising the question is not the same thing as advocacy. Do you have a better quote from the book?
            I bolded the relevant sentence for you.
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            • Dr. Rice said a lot of something's like that. Follow DrosDar's links on the first page of this thread.
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              • That still does not make a case for advocacy. It is a statement of opinion/fact.
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                • *sigh*

                  So if I said, "We could rob a bank..." and then we just happen to rob one, I wasn't advocating it before???
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                  • Depends.

                    Did you make a case for robbing the bank because you could get away with it? Or did you legally go into the bank and shut them down for malfeasance?
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                    • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                      Depends.

                      Did you make a case for robbing the bank because you could get away with it? Or did you legally go into the bank and shut them down for malfeasance?
                      I didn't realise I had that power... or the US had that jurisdiction over Iraq.

                      If, in our analogy, a private citizen (or another bank!) took it upon themselves to walk into a bank and shut it down for any reason, there would be nothing legal about it.
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                      • Originally posted by joncha


                        I didn't realise I had that power... or the US had that jurisdiction over Iraq.

                        If, in our analogy, a private citizen (or another bank!) took it upon themselves to walk into a bank and shut it down for any reason, there would be nothing legal about it.
                        Depends on what your weapon is. Legal guns for hire to shut down the bank are not unheard of.
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                        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                            • Well, it was either that or ...although I suppose would have worked as well.
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                              • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                                Dr. Rice said a lot of something's like that. Follow DrosDar's links on the first page of this thread.
                                Maybe I'm not following correctly. So Rice said many things that are potentially untruths, potentially meaning she purjured herself, but the commission didn't get its teeth into her over those issues. That makes things seem even more odd to me.

                                Or did they cite the contrary evidence, but it did so ham-fistedly that the media in general have said that she acquitted herself well?
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