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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Would the presence of WMD in Iraq justify the war in your view?
Would the presence of WMD in Iraq justify the war in your view?
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Then why do you care?Originally posted by MOBIUS
About as much as do in North Korea or Israel...I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Care about what?Originally posted by DinoDoc
Then why do you care?Comment
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You make it sound like you could only use character references to make your judgement. I would assume that most of the people who didn't believe there were WMDs simply weren't convinced by the evidence.Originally posted by Wezil
I fessed up months ago Mobius. I was given the choice between believing a democratically elected government or believing Saddam. I chose wrong.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Originally posted by Big Crunch
You make it sound like you could only use character references to make your judgement. I would assume that most people (who didn't believe there were WMDs) simply weren't convinced by the evidence.
Sorry I didn't have the access to the evidence you appear to have had.
Like the vast majority in this world I had to rely on what I was told by the various factions. I tend not to put dictators and tyrants too high on my credibility scale, hence the choice I made.
It was AFTER the fact that evidence starting putting the lie to the Bush admin claims.
That said, I could have supported the war for a number of other reasons (you know the list by now). Sadly, these were not the arguments used to mobilise public opinion. This war is being fought on false pretenses (WMD, 'war on terror', etc)."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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Bush is using the black man as cannon fodder.Funny how it's always Powell that gets the rotten jobs.
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Bush has let his lies run away with themselfs...were he to come out tomorrow and admit he cheated in 2000, he ignored warnings pre-9/11, he lied about WoMD, etc., etc., I doubt half of the group of ultra-rabid followers he has would ever notice.meet the new boss, same as the old bossComment
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It's just a second round of lies to cover up ealier lies. He lied back then, and now he lies about "now".Powell now doubts Iraq evidence.Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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Are you sure he was not asked/ordered to lie?Comment
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Yes you did. I'm talking about the evidence that the Bush admin (and others) provided. It wasn't convincing evidence to many people.Originally posted by Wezil
Sorry I didn't have the access to the evidence you appear to have had.
Like the vast majority in this world I had to rely on what I was told by the various factions. I tend not to put dictators and tyrants too high on my credibility scale, hence the choice I made.
Forget what Saddam may or may not have said, have you no ability to critically evaluate what you are told by a government?
It was AFTER the fact that evidence starting putting the lie to the Bush admin claims.
In the minds of many the Bush admin never proved their case. That is the important point. The fact that he was 'proven' to be lying after the war, just re-iterates the point.
That said, I could have supported the war for a number of other reasons (you know the list by now). Sadly, these were not the arguments used to mobilise public opinion. This war is being fought on false pretenses (WMD, 'war on terror', etc).
I'm not questioning whether it was right or not, I just feel your justification seemed a bit weak. If you said you had listened to the arguments and agreed with them, that would be understandable, but you seem to be saying you are a headless chicken who just follows the guy in charge because he wouldn't lie.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Of course he was asked. So what?Originally posted by Tripledoc
Are you sure he was not asked/ordered to lie?Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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Given that Saddam acted as if he were hiding them, giving the benefit of the doubt to the administration was not difficult. I would imagine it would have been if you were predisposed to not trust the administration, but not everyone thinks like that.(\__/)
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Somehow, I doubt a majority of Americans would share your feelings.Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Powell could have been a good president. Unfortunately (or rather fortunately), he's worn out now, as nobody trusts him anymore.
If he managed to stay loyal and at the same time not compromise himeself, then his stock would go up I would imagine.
It is too bad that he decided that elected office is not for he and his family. That would be an interesting campaign.(\__/)
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Who cares what that Uncle Tom thinks now?Only feebs vote.Comment
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What does his being black have to do with it, Aggy? Do you pay that much attention to skin colour?(\__/)
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No, it's just that I agree with Harry Belafonte, Rice and Powell are house slaves.Only feebs vote.Comment
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