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  • But what if God sent another prophet, and yet again changed what was "right"? Say, now God thought that heterosexual sex was a sin?
    I want more mocking condesension and idiotic questions like this one. It isn't sporting for one side to monopolize talent like this.
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    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
      Abraham believed that God would intervene and offer something else for sacrifice.
      Where does it say that in the bible?
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      • Originally posted by MrFun
        Thanks, Spencer -- so God commanded Abraham to stop the planned sacrifice of his son. Thus, God would condemn anyone who would kill their own children and in turn, means that it IS immoral to kill your own children, even if you thought God was telling you to do this.
        Sorry, but you are completely off. Abraham would have killed his son if God did not intervene, why should this woman be held differently, according to the bible?
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        • Originally posted by SpencerH


          Good Lord!

          You read that exerpt from genesis and came up with that interpretation!

          I foresee a great future for you in (liberal) politics.
          What's wrong with the interpretation?
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          • I'm sure all the video game people are out calling for a ban on God.
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            • Originally posted by Urban Ranger
              Sorry, but you are completely off. Abraham would have killed his son if God did not intervene, why should this woman be held differently, according to the bible?
              I thought the point was, according to the new testament, you didn't have to be tested like this to show your love and faith in god, you put everything into Jesus as your savior. thus any voices inside your head are either the product of dementia or.....Satan

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              • Anyone demanding that someone kill their child (even if they plan to stop them at the last moment) as proof of loyalty is a sick f***. That sounds more like something Caligula would do.

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                • Originally posted by DaShi
                  I'm sure all the video game people are out calling for a ban on God.
                  Ban Ming! Are you insane?
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                  • Well duh -- I think we can all agree with that, gamenaught.

                    But to make such a grossly unfair, bigoted generalization that this must be the mindset of all faithful religious people is just plain wrong.
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                    • Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                      Sorry, but you are completely off. Abraham would have killed his son if God did not intervene, why should this woman be held differently, according to the bible?
                      Abraham was ostensibly actually told in no uncertain terms to sacrifice his son. According to the story posted, this woman saw her kids abusing animals or something and interpreted it as, "God wants me to kill my kids." Not a voice from heaven, not a burning bush, just a lot of weird coincidences that she added up to a divine command by some unknown leap of intuition. The woman is plainly nuts. And yes, I know, she "sincerely believed God was telling her to kill her kids, so she did it." But the fact that she thought God was telling her to kill the kids at all based on what she saw shows that she was severely diminished in terms of mental faculties. We're not talking about a rational decision here, but the tangled chain of ideas followed by a lunatic. There's a distinction.
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                      • Well duh -- I think we can all agree with that, gamenaught.
                        It seems some people don't have a problem with it.

                        But to make such a grossly unfair, bigoted generalization that this must be the mindset of all faithful religious people is just plain wrong.
                        I'm not exactly sure what you meant by that but, to clarify, by "anyone" I wasn't saying that everyone must hold that same opinion. I was referring to the God, mafia boss, war lord, dictator, or whatever that would demand their followers to sacrifice their kids.

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                        • Originally posted by Elok
                          Abraham was ostensibly actually told in no uncertain terms to sacrifice his son. According to the story posted, this woman saw her kids abusing animals or something and interpreted it as, "God wants me to kill my kids." Not a voice from heaven, not a burning bush, just a lot of weird coincidences that she added up to a divine command by some unknown leap of intuition. The woman is plainly nuts. And yes, I know, she "sincerely believed God was telling her to kill her kids, so she did it." But the fact that she thought God was telling her to kill the kids at all based on what she saw shows that she was severely diminished in terms of mental faculties. We're not talking about a rational decision here, but the tangled chain of ideas followed by a lunatic. There's a distinction.
                          So a voice in your head telling you to kill your son makes you sane while this woman is a lunatic how?
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                          • Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                            So a voice in your head telling you to kill your son makes you sane while this woman is a lunatic how?
                            Bad troll! Bad! No biscuit!

                            Seriously, a voice in one's head is a voice in one's head; assuming there is a god, instructions from Him might very well take that form. Instructions from God would probably not take the form of marking a kid to die by having him play with a toy spear and squeeze a frog, unless God happens to be a seriously stoned beatnik performance artist.
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                            • Perhaps already posted but_ the jury aquited her of the murder due to an affirmative defense of insanity. She will now be sent to psychiatric facility.
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                              • I've read about some form of schizophrenia which displays quite exactly the symptom of "hearing voices" who command to do something. Her problem might be this mental disease (which is definitely a matter of psychologists and not a jury). If so, she probably would have killed her kids anyway. As a non-religious person she would have ascribed the voices to ghosts or so, commanding the same thing. It has nothing to do with religion, and much with psychology.
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