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  • #31
    Originally posted by Park Avenue
    "White committing crimes may not have been stopped; they may have been let go with a warning; the prosecutor may have decided there was not enough evidence; the jury may have found their pleas more believable."

    All of which you provide no proof for.

    "Your position is that you BELIEVE blacks commit more crimes because of some trait magically linked to their skin colour, jumping ability and affinity for collard greens"

    I never said anything about crime. But it is true that the differences can be linked with skin colour (and I never said because of their colour)
    Park is right. Black people, at least in the US, DO commit more crimes than white people. This is a fact, but its not racist, its economic.

    Who is more likely to want to rob a bank, a rich guy or a poor guy? And who is poorer in the US, blacks or whites? Now it doesn't mean that they aren't poorer partly because of racism, but it also doesn't make the argument that 'black people commit more crimes' racist.

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    • #32
      There are no significant differences between races, as we are all about 99.99999% genetically identical. And the .0000001 is the information which determines your skin color and other various family and/or ethnic features. But these do translate into racial differences, so Cali is correct.

      Though keep in mind you're also 95% identical to a chimp, and 50% gentically indentical to a banana.
      Irrelevant.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Park Avenue


        Irrelevant.
        How so? I was pointing out there there are racial differences, but that it doesn't mean anything. Isn't that kind of the gist of this thread, stu?

        Stu, I think ultimately you are right in what you are saying here, but you're using the wrong words. "Racial" implies biology, while "culture" implies behavior. I'm sure what you mean to say is that there are noticable behavioral differences between different segments of society (which can lead to crime), not that any particular race is BIOLOGICALLY prone to crime, more so that others.
        Last edited by JimmyCracksCorn; March 30, 2004, 16:10.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
          So every time I eat a banana I'm 1/2 cannibal?

          Thats true.

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          • #35

            Originally posted by Park Avenue
            "White committing crimes may not have been stopped; they may have been let go with a warning; the prosecutor may have decided there was not enough evidence; the jury may have found their pleas more believable."

            All of which you provide no proof for.

            "Your position is that you BELIEVE blacks commit more crimes because of some trait magically linked to their skin colour, jumping ability and affinity for collard greens"

            I never said anything about crime. But it is true that the differences can be linked with skin colour (and I never said because of their colour)


            You never said a lot of things.

            You did say, on the other thread, "the disproportionately high number of ethnics committing crimes...is an obvious fact in Britain and US"

            And you continue to bemoan the attacking of allegations that negative traits are ethnically linked as "racism." Despite the fact that IT IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF THE WORD "RACISM".

            So you don' t have to say it.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn


              Thats true.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn

                Park is right. Black people, at least in the US, DO commit more crimes than white people. This is a fact, but its not racist, its economic.

                Who is more likely to want to rob a bank, a rich guy or a poor guy? And who is poorer in the US, blacks or whites? Now it doesn't mean that they aren't poorer partly because of racism, but it also doesn't make the argument that 'black people commit more crimes' racist.
                Where's your proof, Jimmy? I'm in the mood for deconstruction.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


                  Where's your proof, Jimmy? I'm in the mood for deconstruction.
                  You doubt that blacks in the US, per capita, commit more crimes than whites?

                  What I'm saying is that blacks are poorer, and therefore commit more crime. Its not racial, although historically the reasons why they are poorer are probably racial/racist.

                  And I think, behind it all, that is what Stu is saying too.

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                  • #39
                    Try reading the other thread on the subject. Then take a wild shot in the dark about my feelings on the subject.
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                    • #40
                      More blacks are arrested, tried, and convicted of crimes, yes.

                      Doesn't mean they commit more crimes. And when one considers the relative rates of conviction between whites and blacks, there is very good reason to believe that racism plays a large role in who gets arrested to begin with, let alone convincted.
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                      • #41
                        More blacks are arrested, tried, and convicted of crimes, yes.

                        Doesn't mean they commit more crimes. And when one considers the relative rates of conviction between whites and blacks, there is very good reason to believe that racism plays a large role in who gets arrested to begin with, let alone convincted.
                        Or, they could just be worse at hiding the bodies...

                        The profile for a serial killer is a white male... Why? What racism!!!
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                          Technically it does.
                          Why? It's a scientific question, not a moral one.

                          Show me proof that in all non-superficial matters all races are equal, then you can call me a bad person for refusing to believe it.
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                          • #43
                            The profile for a serial killer is a white male... Why? What racism!!!


                            Its because we have smaller jaws.

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                            • #44
                              Park, has it ever crossed your peanut-sized brain the thought that higher minority crime rates could be because whites get a better start and more chances than minorities?
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                              • #45
                                That's certainly a factor.
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