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these laws suck. i dont do cigs, but its up to the owners of the property to decide what flies. if people dont like it, nobody forces them to go there, and nobody forces anyone to work there either.
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Yeah well, what I feel in my personal politics and what goes on around me are two different things. I was just stating the reason for these laws, not whether I agree with them or not.
Would/should the same lack of health and safety concerns apply to all workplaces? Factories? Mines?"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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monica lewinsky doesOriginally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
i dont do cigs
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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~~~Last edited by our_man; January 18, 2015, 14:43.STDs are like pokemon... you gotta catch them ALL!!!Comment
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Cigarette smoke is in the same class of carcinogens as Asbestos and other goodies, and I would think cities would be very interested if owners were exposing patrons and workers to asbestos, so I don't see the problem.Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
these laws suck. i dont do cigs, but its up to the owners of the property to decide what flies. if people dont like it, nobody forces them to go there, and nobody forces anyone to work there either.
Private property rights don't trump the interest of cities and government in averting public exposure to carcinogens, now matter how socially acceptable they may be."Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.Comment
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We'll all live forever once the scourge of smoking is beaten."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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"First no smoking in bars, and soon no drinking and no talking" - Eddie Izzard"I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
^ The Poly equivalent of:
"I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the MooniniteComment
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Sincerely, I do agree with regulations in factories and mines, and those that forbid Asbestos. But seriously, a PUB? Those are definitely a different case. Smoking is part of a culture and an ambiance, and I'm sure a barmaid who is already a smoker wouldn't have any problem working in a smoking environment.
I sincerely don't see why a Wal-Mart mom driving a SUV should be able to forbid me to smoke at my favorite pub, while I can't forbid her to pollute. Live and let live.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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What about us in the liquor service industry that are non smokers? I work at a friggin off licence and I still come back stinking of smoke.
If people are allowed to smoke then I should be allowed to throw my drink in their eyes. An equal trade of toxins.Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
-Richard DawkinsComment
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i'm a non-smoker but i live with 6 smokers (2 of whom are 'social smokers'), so cigs don't really bother me. i don't like the idea of a ban, as oncle boris says, it's part of going to the pub. i bet most people breath in more petrol fumes and other harmful stuff on their way to work than from a few people lighting up when they go to the boozer in the evening."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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Why doesn't anyone like my idea? Vents are perfect. They'll suck all that smoke away.Comment
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Sig material!Originally posted by Jac de Molay
Nobody ever died from secondhand farting.
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What about house coat wearing?Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
"First no smoking in bars, and soon no drinking and no talking" - Eddie IzzardComment
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God, why are my fellow non-smokers all such whiny *****?
KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!Comment
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I lost two grandparents, and my mother at age 50, to smoking. I will ***** freely and loudly."Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.Comment
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