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  • #61
    Originally posted by Whaleboy


    The trouble is that by killing them, more spring up, so the only thing you achieve is a happy time for the ammo manufacturers. Force may be easier and more productive in the short term, but rarely, if ever is it a good thing in the long term. Of course, an electoral term counts as short term .
    Force is a good option for the long term because it will eliminate those who teach others to do violence. Your views are pretty distorted and inaccurate.

    Reading simple text is reading simple text.

    Reading your mind is reading your mind. No, I'm wearing a jumper...
    I don't see you here reading my mind.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #62
      Force is a good option for the long term because it will eliminate those who teach others to do violence. Your views are pretty distorted and inaccurate.
      This is not an infinite regress of teachers. You can pluck the weed but it keeps growing. You have to use sociological weedkiller to prevent it growing at all. All that force can do is containment, or rather a pressure cooker is a better analogy.

      I don't see you here reading my mind.
      Are you sure about that?
      "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
      "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Whaleboy


        This is not an infinite regress of teachers. You can pluck the weed but it keeps growing. You have to use sociological weedkiller to prevent it growing at all. All that force can do is containment, or rather a pressure cooker is a better analogy.
        So according to you, you let it keep growing and until it overgrows? Your analogies are stupid, inaccurate and arrogant. For every Iraqi that dies if we pull out of Iraq, I will blame you and your sick degenerative kind.

        Are you sure about that?
        You can't read somebody's mind on a message board.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #64
          So according to you, you let it keep growing and until it overgrows?
          Non-interference will let it grow, until they find it harder to justify an attack on a largely benevolent foe. Using my analogy, weedkiller is not force.

          Your analogies are stupid, inaccurate and arrogant
          Yeah but they're fun!

          For every Iraqi that dies if we pull out of Iraq, I will blame you and your sick degenerative kind.
          What about Iraqi's that died in the war. According to that logic, I should blame you! We may be sick and degenerative, but us liberals have the paulty compensation of being right .

          You can't read somebody's mind on a message board.
          I can read yours!!
          "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
          "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Whaleboy


            Non-interference will let it grow, until they find it harder to justify an attack on a largely benevolent foe. Using my analogy, weedkiller is not force.
            Yes it is. Force is necessary to kills those who mean bad. Being inactive is stupid because it lets them grow and they will continue to hate us no matter what you try to claim.

            What about Iraqi's that died in the war. According to that logic, I should blame you! We may be sick and degenerative, but us liberals have the paulty compensation of being right .
            You can't be right in this regard, you are dead and stupidly wrong.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #66
              Yes it is. Force is necessary to kills those who mean bad. Being inactive is stupid because it lets them grow
              What did I just say?

              You can't be right in this regard, you are dead and stupidly wrong.
              But I am right. I'll give you the number of a good councellor...
              "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
              "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Whaleboy


                What did I just say?
                You want to do nothing.

                But I am right. I'll give you the number of a good councellor...
                No you aren't right. I'll give you the number of a good psychologist because you are one screwed up guy.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Giancarlo
                  For every Iraqi that dies if we pull out of Iraq, I will blame you and your sick degenerative kind.
                  In that case, I will now blame you for the death of every U.S. soldier in Iraq so far. Fair enough?

                  One of your victims, you murderer:
                  Attached Files
                  Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                    In that case, I will now blame you for the death of every U.S. soldier in Iraq so far. Fair enough?

                    One of your victims, you murderer:
                    They are doing their jobs. But you are wanting to backstab the Iraqi people.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #70
                      You want to do nothing.
                      Wrong. I want to do something, but I don't want to do force.

                      No you aren't right. I'll give you the number of a good psychologist because you are one screwed up guy.
                      Care for a wager? Psychologists are easily defeated by entering the office with a severe case of homosexual nymphomania, which strangely enough isn't a problem for me...
                      "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                      "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Whaleboy


                        Wrong. I want to do something, but I don't want to do force.
                        How can something be done without force?

                        Care for a wager? Psychologists are easily defeated by entering the office with a severe case of homosexual nymphomania, which strangely enough isn't a problem for me...
                        That is a pretty hefty accusation and a false one too. You are being an idiot now...
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #72
                          Another of Giancarlo's victims is led away.
                          Attached Files
                          Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                          • #73
                            Threadjacking a libertarianism thread. How... libertarian of you, Fez!
                            ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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                            • #74
                              How can something be done without force?
                              With love baby!!

                              I thought you were straight?
                              Don't be ridiculous!

                              That is a pretty hefty accusation and a false one too. You are being an idiot now...
                              Scarily, no! I tried it.
                              "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                              "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                                Another of Giancarlo's victims is led away.
                                The soldiers were killed by Saddam's men, not me. I only want Saddam's men dead and/or captured.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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