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Originally posted by Giancarlo
Isn't there a charge for lying to public officials then? Didn't Martha Stewart do that?
Isn't there a charge for lying to public officials then? Didn't Martha Stewart do that?
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If lying to public officials is a crime... Bush and his whole crew is going to jail over WMD's. So don't hold your breath about that one.To us, it is the BEAST. -
Martha Stewart did obstruction of justice, since there's no related court case its impossible to charge Clarke with that (I think).Originally posted by Giancarlo
Isn't there a charge for lying to public officials then? Didn't Martha Stewart do that?Stop Quoting BenComment
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He was under oath... so if Clarke was lying, he'll be charged with perjury. If there is no charge of perjury,
EVERYTHING HE SAID WAS TRUE
so teh right wingers need to shut up if Clarke doesn't go to jail...
and if Clarke does, I'll shut up...
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Well, then, so long as his book is what's false, he's still not guiltyOriginally posted by Sava
His testimony was under oath.
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IIRC that's an SEC violation - something COMPLETELY irrelevent to this case.Originally posted by Giancarlo
Isn't there a charge for lying to public officials then? Didn't Martha Stewart do that?Comment
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well I'm referring solely to what he testified to today... turn on the news if you didn't hear it. The cable news networks have been talking about his testimony non-stop.Originally posted by Kucinich
Well, then, so long as his book is what's false, he's still not guilty
Bush is going down.
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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It's also a crime to lie to Congress, so if he lied before Congress, he's in deep doodoo. However, what he said has been confirmed by O'Neil, and the documentary evidence. Bush is in deep doodoo.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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What did he say?No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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promise?Originally posted by Sava
and if Clarke does, I'll shut up...
A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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You trust O'Neill? Ever see what that man has said? He caused uproars in Brazil and Argentina, calling the country and people there corrupt. I mean all of the people. The man is a liar. And personally I think O'Neill and Clarke has exchanged notes... so that is collusion which will stake up a few more charges I hope on both. Hopefully we will see Clarke behind bars in a few months, not only for outright lying under OATH, but also for collusion.However, what he said has been confirmed by O'Neil, and the documentary evidence.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Howard Zinn said, "Why aren't people questioning whether the Bush administration cares about terrorism or if all they really care about is influencing some part of the world that they desire influence in."
Good question. Is this just partisan crap before an election, or are Americans going to figure out whats really going on in our leaders heads? Throw all the jerks out.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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In your dumb dreams. In fact it is kerry going down..Originally posted by Sava
Bush is going down.
BY SCOTT CANON
Knight Ridder Newspapers
KANSAS CITY - (KRT) - Confronted with 32-year-old FBI records, Sen. John Kerry's campaign all but conceded he attended a 1971 Kansas City meeting where a fellow anti-war veteran called for political assassinations.
Those active in Vietnam Veterans Against the War at the time stress that the suggestion for such a violent approach was angrily rejected. They say their memories do not include Kerry taking part in the radical discussion. (How convienient)
A statement Thursday by Kerry's camp said the Massachusetts Democrat did not recall the meeting, although FBI surveillance material and the group's archives clearly show that Kerry resigned from his national coordinator post at that November 1971 meeting. (He was there and did nothing)
In interviews last week, the senator's campaign insisted that the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee clearly remembered bolting from the group months earlier.
Responding to a request by The Kansas City Star that staffers question the candidate about the meeting, Kerry passed word March 12 that he "never, ever" attended a meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War after a heated and public argument with the group's executive secretary in St. Louis in June 1971.
In a prepared statement late Thursday night, however, campaign spokesman David Wade, traveling with the candidate in Idaho, said: "John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting 33 years ago. John Kerry does recall the disagreements with elements of VVAW leadership...that led to his resignation.
"If there are valid FBI surveillance reports from credible sources that place some of those disagreements in Kansas City, we accept that historical footnote in the account of his work to end the difficult and divisive war."
This is going to explode. Attending a meeting calling for the assassination of public officials? Hmm... and John Kerry had no memory of these meetings? How convenient.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Accusation: Bush lied!
Defense of the Bush-ites (like Giancarlo):
Uhhh.......hey! look over here, Kerry has lied!
Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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Do you think Mr Bush should be in prison for lying about Iraqi BCN weapons?Originally posted by Giancarlo
You trust O'Neill? Ever see what that man has said? He caused uproars in Brazil and Argentina, calling the country and people there corrupt. I mean all of the people. The man is a liar. And personally I think O'Neill and Clarke has exchanged notes... so that is collusion which will stake up a few more charges I hope on both. Hopefully we will see Clarke behind bars in a few months, not only for outright lying under OATH, but also for collusion.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."Comment
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Kerry went to a meeting on assassinating political leaders.. that's not exactly setting a precedent.Originally posted by Saint Marcus
Accusation: Bush lied!
Defense of the Bush-ites (like Giancarlo):
Uhhh.......hey! look over here, Kerry has lied!
UR: Bush lied about Iraqi BCN weapons? Since when?For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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