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  • #16
    Originally posted by Tuberski


    There you are wrong, my friend. Americans don't think the world should love them all, Americans want the world to love them but know that the world doesn't.

    ACK!
    American's know the world does not love them-they are at a loss to know why the world does not love them becuase they can't think why anyone could not find them loveable.
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    • #17
      they are at a loss to know why the world does not love them becuase they can't think why anyone could not find them loveable
      Again, a very condescending view of Americans.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DanS


        Again, a very condescending view of Americans.
        Living now as an American, having lived with a lot of Americans not as one, I can say this is what I have generally seen.

        Self-reflection by American's as to why, WHY!? someone outside the US might not like Americans, either for invalid or valid reasons is not an American strong suit.
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        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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        • #19
          DanS, and that's exactly why I didn't read it!

          Anyway, well someones gotta lose, no? It will be fine I promise *huggies*
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          • #20
            We simply cannot generalise about an entire nation like this. They're not all blind patriotic flag ****ers or mindless neo-Amish. They have the same thinking, critical, intelligent and diverse elements that any educated progressive nation has.

            Yes, it has an image problem. I think that's more the fault of the government and Texas than anything else, and that can be easily fixed by an election and a chasm in the ground respectively jk.
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            • #21
              If they won't love us, we will make them love us.

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              • #22
                well give me money, I'll love you.
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                • #23
                  These polls are wierd. It's like we're running for office.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                  • #24
                    Is there any other nation as seemingly obsesed by being loved by the world? It's like we have some sort of narcisitic need to have people say they love us.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by -Jrabbit
                      A sad statement. Sadder still that I find it difficult to doubt its accuracy.

                      When a powerful nation can't enlist the aid, trust, or respect of its allies, it's hard not to read it as a global indictment of its foreign policy.

                      Looking at record deficits -- both trade and budget -- while seeing my government drop a $billion/day to continue a questionable war while wasting months trying to come up with an exit strategy -- well, it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

                      One thing near the end of the article stands out...


                      While the administration sees the problem per se, they don't seem to understand that the (lack of) content and forethought in their Iraq policy precludes most nations from even considering lending support.

                      Failure to buffalo world opinion into equating Iraq with Al Qaeda was expected. Making Bin Laden a hero-martyr to the Muslim world was easily predicted. But the seeming inability to react and do something about it in an election year is a continuing mystery.
                      Well i'm guessing you're american, and i know we get the odd hardliners from both sides here at poly, still being British and spending the time to look at all our foreign policy gaffs over the centuries(I mean like we killed a lot of maybe mostly innocent civillians all over the world in our 'empire' days) - it does seem to me America is basicaly doing the same, its been much more covertly done for the most part of the modern era, through finacial means etc. But its definately stepping up a gear.

                      I think its a bad move with predictable outcomes. The 'natives' (to coin a historical phrase) have got smarter and better trained(by America+Europe), so it just seems to be a no-win strategy - unless your trying to create an Orwellian(1984) ruled state(fear and terror keeping your populace maluable kinda thing).

                      On a personal note I want to love America - its just behaving like a rather flirtsome spouse at the momment
                      'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

                      Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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                      • #26
                        I love America

                        But to love it, doesn't mean we have to agree with it all the time !!

                        As a Brit (and I speak only for myself as a Brit here) .. I see America as our younger brother, thats grown up and become a tad bigger and bolder than us. I love them as brothers, but will tell them straight when they annoy or irritate us.

                        My friend is married to a bolivian girl, who utterly hates America. She blames America for meddling in her countries affairs, and forcing the governments hand by threatening to pull out of investment etc .. The perception is, America uses its wealth to oppress the poor.
                        "Wherever wood floats, you will find the British" . Napoleon

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          Is there any other nation as seemingly obsesed by being loved by the world? It's like we have some sort of narcisitic need to have people say they love us.
                          No.
                          If you don't like reality, change it! me
                          "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                          "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Whaleboy
                            We simply cannot generalise about an entire nation like this.
                            Those of us who actually live in the country can.
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                            • #29
                              DD, well it's like this. Americans loves the US. Other nationalities loves their countries. But I think often times Americans assume that others loves the US too. Why should they love it? The whole setting of this situation is so different, most often foreigners don't give a crap about other countries in a way that they'd love them at all. No one cares that much.

                              Besides the US makes headlines every day, it attracts attention, that makes opinions. If I was in the headlines everyday, I'd bet there would be record amount of people hating me for a good reason or for a bad reason.
                              That's it.

                              The US is great and Americans in general are very nice people, but get over yourselves already .
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                              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by GePap


                                No.
                                That's why I find these polls stupid.
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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