Terrorists claim victory in Spain

[Ned]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Undermine their source of followers by forcing Israel to deal fairly with the Palestinians, stop supporting dictatorial regimes in the Moslem world, and hunt the bastards down everywhere in the world an brng them to justice.

1) On Israel -- Dean said this. Do you think Kerry will? There is a Jewish vote to consider.

2) What Dictators are we supporting?

3) Hunt? In Iran? In Syria? In Pakistan after we pull the rug from under Mussaraff.

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap


Alocate the necessary recources to fighting AQ and counterterrorism.

Please explain what we should be DOING. Forget the money. We will fund it.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by GePap


Alocate the necessary recources to fighting AQ and counterterrorism unlike this admin.

In reverse order of appearance

Which means what pap?

Turn the country into a police state. You'd howl then eh?

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Undermine their source of followers by forcing Israel to deal fairly with the Palestinians, stop supporting dictatorial regimes in the Moslem world, and hunt the bastards down everywhere in the world an brng them to justice.

So you advocate re-arming the CIA (metaphorically speaking) and letting them actually conduct nasty covert ops again?

Who is using Che's PC?

[GePap]

Well, lets start.

The Homeland Defense department is a joke. Too many different tasks all consolidtate under one moronic control. Much more important would have been to consolidtate FBI and CIA terrorist intelliegence, and imporve interagency info sharing on this issue.

We are about 40,000 western troops short in Afghnistan. We need to disarm the warlords, create centralized controlof the country under the Kabul government.

We need far more money for localities to fill higher security bills, increase training and pay for those doing security on the ground.

I am sure all the money we have sunk into Iraq would have more than paid for all these things.

As for Iraq, now that AFTER INVASION it has become infested with AQ- replace a coolition of the willing with a real international mandate. Use this to bring in tens of thousands of troops from around the world to use for security. Much higher recosntruction aid, much higher.

[Giancarlo]

This guy is an idiot..

ZAPATERO PROVES HIS MORONISM

The International Herald Tribune recently quoted Zapatero as saying, "We're aligning ourselves with Kerry. Our allegiance will be for peace, against war, no more deaths for oil, and for a dialogue between the government of Spain and the new Kerry administration."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...pain_bombings_2

Kerry isn't even elected, so what the **** is he talking about? And the chances for Kerry are minimal.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by GePap

And yours? Oh, I forgot, you headed the CIA from 24303 to 45670, no?

Dodging again snaketongue?

No I didnt head the CIA, I did analysis for another bunch.

Bombings in Madrid, Bali, Istanbul, Iraq, Morrocco, Tunisia, OBL still out, reports on conitnuing security lapses not only at RR lines, but airports still, and lets not even get into highways and ports. And then no reports yet from the 9/11 commissions, and I eould like to here good news about greater information sharing between US agencies and International agencies.

The successes I have seen against AQ and its leadership and financing do not seem to have been followed up, or their effects have worn off significantly.

Damn, I forgot to wave my magic wand again.

* GePap thins that is all biased bs for Spenciepoo anyway, but what does the good all pap now?

Obviously pap doesnt know what pap is.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by GePap
We are about 40,000 western troops short in Afghnistan. We need to disarm the warlords, create centralized controlof the country under the Kabul government.

Remember the last time a nation sent troops in mass to Afghanistan? The Soviet Union correct? That's not a very wise thing to do. We cannot send a mass amount of troops to make it look like we are taking over or the **** will hit the fan.

[GePap]

Originally posted by SpencerH


Dodging again snaketongue?

No I didnt head the CIA, I did analysis for another bunch.

And of course, this makes you the expert-hey, you care so much, why haven't you joined up to fight AQ?

Damn, I forgot to wave my magic wand again.

Oh, nice dodge, *hmm, must think of catchy new name for Spenciepoo?..hmmmmmmmmmm?

Nah, Spenciepoo fits the kid nicely.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
Remember the last time a nation sent troops in mass to Afghanistan? The Soviet Union correct? That's not a very wise thing to do. We cannot send a mass amount of troops to make it look like we are taking over or the **** will hit the fan.

How could you dare compare the glorious liberation of the crushed Afghan people to the murdeorus commie aggression vs the then peaceloving Afghan people!!??

Nothing but a communist sympathizer you are.

If I remember, the jihadists, like, hmm, one Osama Bin Laden, got huge amounts of money and aid from the west, SA, and a friendly Pakistan. All these things would be lacking today, as AQ and the warlords have no international friends.

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap
Well, lets start.

The Homeland Defense department is a joke. Too many different tasks all consolidtate under one moronic control. Much more important would have been to consolidtate FBI and CIA terrorist intelliegence, and imporve interagency info sharing on this issue.

We are about 40,000 western troops short in Afghnistan. We need to disarm the warlords, create centralized controlof the country under the Kabul government.

We need far more money for localities to fill higher security bills, increase training and pay for those doing security on the ground.

I am sure all the money we have sunk into Iraq would have more than paid for all these things.

As for Iraq, now that AFTER INVASION it has become infested with AQ- replace a coolition of the willing with a real international mandate. Use this to bring in tens of thousands of troops from around the world to use for security. Much higher recosntruction aid, much higher.

Not bad, GePap. I could support this.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by GePap




How could you dare compare the glorious liberation of the crushed Afghan people to the murdeorus commie aggression vs the then peaceloving Afghan people!!??

Nothing but a communist sympathizer you are.

If I remember, the jihadists, like, hmm, one Osama Bin Laden, got huge amounts of money and aid from the west, SA, and a friendly Pakistan. All these things would be lacking today, as AQ and the warlords have no international friends.

Calling me a communist sympathizer is like calling Ronald Reagan a leftist.

What you say isn't relevant. But what is relevant is this: If we send troops in mass it would look like we are taking over.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
This guy is an idiot..

ZAPATERO PROVES HIS MORONISM

The International Herald Tribune recently quoted Zapatero as saying, "We're aligning ourselves with Kerry. Our allegiance will be for peace, against war, no more deaths for oil, and for a dialogue between the government of Spain and the new Kerry administration."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...pain_bombings_2

Kerry isn't even elected, so what the **** is he talking about? And the chances for Kerry are minimal.

I look forward to Kerry endorsing Zapatero and annoucing a unilateral pullout from Iraq to match Spain's.

[GePap]

My main problem with this admin. vis a vi terrorism is that for all their TALK the fact is we have to spend massive amounts of more money on imporving counterterrorism, on making Afghanistan secure and now Iraq secure-the fact is, the sacrifices the American people must make are much greater than this amdin. is even willing to ask of them-for all their talk about them being tough on terrorism.

I prefer Kerry to Bush on terrorism not becuase I think Kerry can all of a sudden change everything overnight in terms of getting agencies to cooperate in the US, but becuase he
1. talks about increasing internal anti-terorrism funding
2. Americans are NOT ready to make the sacrifices necessary-that being the case, a more cordial international relation with our allies will help us coordinate our meager resources better with the meager resources others are willing to invest to improve our bang for the buck.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by GePap

And of course, this makes you the expert-hey, ?

Not at all, counter-terrorism wasnt my area, but unlike you, I actually have experience in the intel world.

you care so much, why haven't you joined up to fight AQ

Brilliant! Maybe I should go back home where I belong too!

Oh, nice dodge, *hmm, must think of catchy new name for Spenciepoo?..hmmmmmmmmmm?

Nah, Spenciepoo fits the kid nicely.

What? You'd rather I call you pap than snaketongue?