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    Woman charged after refusing Caesarean
    Autopsy showed 2nd twin would have survived with procedure
    The Associated Press
    Updated: 10:42 p.m. ET March 11, 2004
    SALT LAKE CITY - A pregnant woman who allegedly ignored medical warnings to have a Caesarean section to save her twins was charged Thursday with murder after one of the babies was stillborn.

    Prosecutors said Melissa Ann Rowland, 28, didn’t want the scars that accompany the surgery.

    An autopsy found the baby died two days before its Jan. 13 delivery and that it would have survived if Rowland had had a C-section when her doctors urged her to, between Christmas and Jan.9. The other baby is alive, but authorities had no further information.

    The doctors had warned that without a C-section, the twins would probably die, authorities said. A nurse told police Rowland said a Caesarean would “ruin her life” and she would rather “lose one of the babies than be cut like that.”

    “We are unable to find any reason other than the cosmetic motivations” for the mother’s decision, said Kent Morgan, spokesman for the district attorney.

    Court documents give no address for Rowland, and she isn’t listed in area telephone books. An attorney was to be appointed for her Friday, Morgan said. A court appearance was set for Tuesday.

    The charges carry five years to life in prison. Rowland was jailed on $250,000 bail.

    In January, the state Supreme Court ruled that unborn children at all stages of development are covered under the state’s criminal homicide statute. The law exempts the death of a fetus during an abortion.

    The law has been used to prosecute women who kill or seriously harm their babies through drug use; it has never been used because a woman failed to follow her doctor’s advice, said Marguerite Driessen, a law professor at Brigham Young University.

    “It’s very troubling to have somebody come in and say we’re going to charge this mother for murder because we don’t like the choices she made,” Driessen said.

    According to the documents, Rowland went to LDS Hospital in Salt Lake City in December to seek advice after she hadn’t felt her babies move. A nurse, Regina Davis, told police she instructed Rowland to go immediately to one of two other hospitals, but that Rowland said she would rather have both babies die before going to either place.

    On Jan. 2, a doctor at LDS Hospital examined Rowland and recommended an immediate C-section based on an ultrasound and the babies’ slowing heart rates. Rowland left, the doctor told police.

    The same day, Rowland allegedly saw a nurse at another hospital, saying she had left LDS Hospital because the doctor wanted to cut her “from breast bone to pubic bone.”

    A week later, Rowland allegedly went to a third hospital to verify whether her babies were alive. A nurse there told police she could not detect a heartbeat from one twin and advised Rowland to remain in the hospital, but Rowland allegedly ignored the advice.

    A spokesman for LDS Hospital said he could not comment, citing medical privacy and a pending court case. It was not clear how many weeks Rowland was pregnant before the delivery.

    © 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.





    Okay folks, what do you think?

    While the woman is obviously an idiot, I find it troubling that she is being charged with murder for refusing a surgical procedure... it is my (admittedly novice) legal understanding that adults can refuse medical treatment if they so desire...
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    It's Utah, Guy. They do strange things there
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    • #3
      I can't see charging her with murder, admittedly solely on the basis that it doesn't seem right.

      There's a cans of worms.
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      • #4
        The woman should probably have done it, but... MURDER? that is plain idiotic.

        BTW, wouldn't the surgery cost her money if she's not insured (or only partly?)
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        • #5
          I'm not sure I'd call her an idiot. C-sections are notoriously over-prescribed.

          The quickest link I could find to the debate in the Canadian context:

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          • #6
            The worst thing I could see is criminal negligence, but that's pushing it.
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            • #7
              Charging someone with murder for refusing to go under the knife? What, are we gonna start forcing people to give up kidneys and force everyone to be an organ donar now? This is a massive invasion of privacy and will hopefully be struck down as unconstitutional.
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              • #8
                Why do I have to live in such a stupid state?
                But this probably will be a bigger issue in Utah. The Church wants people to procreate, and so.....

                Sigh. Please, no jokes.
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                • #9
                  At least your state isn't as corrupt as mine. I live in a friggan banana republic. My state makes Nigerians blush.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
                    Why do I have to live in such a stupid state?
                    But this probably will be a bigger issue in Utah. The Church wants people to procreate, and so.....

                    Sigh. Please, no jokes.
                    How's about an "I told you so"?
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                    • #11
                      This woman denied one of her babies the chance to accept Jesus Christ as it's personal savior and as a result,her innocent child is now being tortured in the lowest bowels of hell by a legion of demons.

                      I say string her up!!
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                      • #12
                        Child endangerment would have been the better charge to make.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          Child endangerment would have been the better charge to make.
                          And here comes our first proponent of forced surgery ...
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                          • #14
                            It's more logical than making the charge of murder.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              It's more logical than making the charge of murder.
                              Best solution - drop the charges and tell the Mormons to line up for some Kool-Aid. Yeah, that's the ticket!
                              - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
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