Anarchism vs. Communism: Ramo's Opportunity

[Kidlicious]

The basic difference in the two ideologies is the level of decision making power that workers would have, the way I see it. I don't think there are any Leninists here at Poly, but those who classify themselves as communists must believe in some authority over workers, or it seems to me that they would call themselves anarcists. For myself, I'm almost an anarchist, but I'm not as absolute about freedom, as anarchists seem to be. I don't believe in the basic goodness of people. They need someone to kick them in the ass sometimes.

[Sava]

ROCK ON!

[Kuciwalker]

In anarchism, profit is just an unfair tax.

[SKILORD]

They kick themselves in the asses most of the time.

Make a mistake, pay the consequences.

[alva]

I don't believe in the basic goodness of people.

Why not?, most people are basically good by nature(not flawless, just good), it's the few the spoill it for the many.

[Sava]

Originally posted by alva

I don't believe in the basic goodness of people.

Why not?, most people are basically good by nature(not flawless, just good), it's the few the spoill it for the many.

I don't agree with you. You don't know the true evil nature of humanity until you've driven in rush hour in Chicago.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by alva

I don't believe in the basic goodness of people.

Why not?, most people are basically good by nature(not flawless, just good), it's the few the spoill it for the many.

Actually I don't really like to categorize people as good or bad. People are motivated to work in small groups and under other certain conditions. The anarchist standpoint seems to be that they will contribute equally just because they are free. And that's where I disagree. However I don't have any problem with workers being able to make decisions, but I disagree with what those decisions should be.

[Sava]

I think both philosophies are stupid.

[mrmitchell]

All philosophies have various stupidities.

For example:

-Anarchism: Chaos and disorder on the streets followed by complete societal collapse
-Communism: Creates state-worship a lot of the time.
-Capitalism: Leaves much of the working, lower, and unemployed classes screwed

[Kuciwalker]

Anarchy is stupid because it is by definition unenforcable. Communism is stupid because it is a rigid, inflexible system that can't respond to the needs of the people. Capitalism is brilliant because it is a self-organizing system that is fundamentally meritocratic

[Kidlicious]

This isn't working out. Can those of you who are not anarchists or communists please stop jacking this thread?

[Kuciwalker]

no

There AREN'T any anarchists on Apolyton, just lots of communists.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by skywalker


In anarchism, profit is just an unfair tax.

Huh?

[Kuciwalker]

You weren't here for Kidicious' "profit = unfair tax" threads, were you?

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Sava
I don't agree with you. You don't know the true evil nature of humanity until you've driven in rush hour in Chicago.

People aren't evil - Cars are evil.