"Americans are great people, better than anyone else..."

[East Street Trader]

What a weird experience for these boys.

And what weird behaviour to abduct them like that.

I wonder whether those responsible considered compensating them when they got around to releasing them?

Seemingly not.

[Imran Siddiqui]

we'll wait till the other 600 get out

Because releasing terrorists is a laudable goal?

[East Street Trader]

Judging by what is said about these boys the notion that anyone locked up in Guantanamo is a terrorist seems a bit remote.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Ted Striker


Well what are you waiting for Doc, hook a brother up.

Don't hate congratulate.

Huh? You mean you want me to find a romance for my brother, or do you want me to hook you up with one of my niece's?

I can't do it. I and my brothers are persona non grata at my brother's ex- wife's place.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger No chance, until they get rid of Hinduism and the caste system.

Also, when they stop dreaming being a regional superpower by spending 10%+ GDP on military.

Why Hinduism?

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

we'll wait till the other 600 get out

Because releasing terrorists is a laudable goal?

That they are has not been proved yet. Even if some aren't (likely, given that they held a 12-year old), it's possible they won't release them because of what they've seen.

[The Templar]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

No chance, until they get rid of Hinduism and the caste system.

Hinduism is a pretty good religion in that, at its best, it creates a space where different religious ideas can blend and be assimilated. Whereas Christianity and Islam insist on conversion and being absolute over all comers. Granted, the Hindu Nationalist Party represent the jackass wing of Hinduism. They are to India what the Southern Evangelicals are to the US - orthodox and parochial in outlook.

And every society has its caste system - rooted in the twin pulls of status hierarchy and nepotism that go with being primates. The Indian system has been becoming more fluid over the years, while the US's has been solidifying.

Solidification of a hierarchy is the surest sign of a fall. It is the upper class pulling up the ladder in order to defend their position against those who seek to achive higher status via merit. We in the US are doing our damnedest to turn the country into Brazil (a small over class and a vast under class). The barriers to entry into the overclass become so high that it is hopeless to even attempt to overcome them. Most of the Indian students I know are on the rise. Most of the American students I know are just trying to maintain the class status in which they grew up.

[Nubclear]

Well, Britain can project power a lot better than China...

Britain has neither enough power to project nor does it have the economy that China does.

No chance, until they get rid of Hinduism and the caste system.

Ah, I see the Chinese brainwashing is emerging

Also, when they stop dreaming being a regional superpower by spending 10%+ GDP on military.

In 2002, they were spending 2.3% on GDP.
I know People's Daily is such an unbiased source for news, but.....

Btw, Oregonians are the best Americans.

But they don't live in the land of god!

Russia or Japan.

Russia
Japan

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by The Templar


Hinduism is a pretty good religion in that, at its best, it creates a space where different religious ideas can blend and be assimilated. Whereas Christianity and Islam insist on conversion and being absolute over all comers. Granted, the Hindu Nationalist Party represent the jackass wing of Hinduism. They are to India what the Southern Evangelicals are to the US - orthodox and parochial in outlook.

And every society has its caste system - rooted in the twin pulls of status hierarchy and nepotism that go with being primates. The Indian system has been becoming more fluid over the years, while the US's has been solidifying.

Solidification of a hierarchy is the surest sign of a fall. It is the upper class pulling up the ladder in order to defend their position against those who seek to achive higher status via merit. We in the US are doing our damnedest to turn the country into Brazil (a small over class and a vast under class). The barriers to entry into the overclass become so high that it is hopeless to even attempt to overcome them. Most of the Indian students I know are on the rise. Most of the American students I know are just trying to maintain the class status in which they grew up.

not really

[Nubclear]

A very well thought out, reasoned response.
Youve convinced me, Ted.

[Ted Striker]

no problem

[The Templar]

Originally posted by Ted Striker


not really

Well Ted, if you're going to be wrong at least it is nice that you are brief about it. Could you teach BK this trick?

[Ted Striker]

i don't eat at Burger King

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Verto


Please elaborate. And use small words.

Why would Ben be pouting? Did you mean to use another word?

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by The Templar


Most of the American students I know are just trying to maintain the class status in which they grew up.

Unless you live in India you're not going to see an average Indian because most of them would be lucky to make the price of an airline ticket to the US over a 5 year period of time. The Indian students you know are mostly the cream of a billion person crop. If you're living in the US though you're in a country where even an average person can go to college, so yes, many of them would be struggling.