Bush's First TV Ads! (Sneak Preview)

[MrFun]

It's disgusting the way the Bush administration is using 9/11 and its aftermath to claim that the Republican party is the only party equated with patriotism, or national security.

Such values as patriotism and national security belong to the Democrats as well as Republicans.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MrFun
It's disgusting the way the Bush administration is using 9/11 and its aftermath to claim that the Republican party is the only party equated with patriotism, or national security.

He's running for reelection. I wouldn't expect him to say too many nice things about his opponents.

[MrFun]

Yeah -- it's way too easy for opposing politicians to tar and feather the other political party as being unpatriotic and against national security concerns.

How dumb does Bush think American voters are??

[Traianvs]

How dumb does Bush think American voters are??

I'm sure every politician in any country on the world knows just how stupid voters are


Btw those ads were hilarious. If there were similar ads on our channels, with our politicians, I would laugh 30 minutes non-stop rolling on the floor, but that's just me

[Sava]

Bush showed tremendous leadership during the days after 9/11. When he visited NY against the advice of the secret service, he lifted the morale of a lot of people who badly needed. he gave his all to the men and women who lost loved ones on that day. he showed tremendous character and courage, and moral leadership. To say that he is like an absentee dad, is simply false and outrageous.

the absentee dad comment is due to the FACT that Bush promised $20 billion to New York... they eventually got $9 billion, after begging... and they deducted National Guard costs from that $9 billion.

Bush is a ****head... and so are the moron supporters that don't know the truth of his callousness.

I don't give half a crap about his ads. I'm actually glad he's trying to exploit 9-11 rather than run a smear campaign against Kerry like Bush did to John McCain in the 2000 primaries. Bush's ads said McCain fathered an illegitimate black child (a complete lie), was doing the bidding of North Vietnamese (which people in the Nedaverse still believe), and that McCain faked his POW treatment.

Frankly, it's surprising Bush isn't showing ads with John Kerry next to Osama bin Laden, like Bush's people did to Max Cleland during the 2002 campaign.

In terms of the slimy and utter **** Bush ads usually are, this one is actually quite harmless.

Bush haters will hate it (or be like me and not care), Bush lovers will love it, and people in the middle won't pay attention.

[DanS]

on the other side they didn´t do any good things about it, yet.

Dude, you must have been asleep for the last several years.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

DanS,

Its called "Denial".

[mindseye]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

Who can think of a politician from either party that wouldn't have made a similar add? Anyone?

Good point, but it was Bush, not another politician of either party, who said of 9-11:

, "I have no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/05/po...gn/05BUSH.html

Maybe he should've checked with Ms. Hughes before stating that before Congress in 2002.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MrFun
Some of MoveOn's proposed ads, . . .

An anyone who actully pays atention will tell you, these are not MoveOn's ads. They were ads submitted by indivudals as part of a contest. There were over 1500 ads submitted. The one's you mentioned weren't even selected to be voted on.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Alright, who here thinks Bush's "9-11" ("a day of tradgedy") commercial is offensive?

I want a show of hands.

i don't find it offensive in the true sense of the word. the response after 9-11 indeed showed the strength and unity amoungst americans. and although bush was a strong figure during those dark times (eclipsed only by Rudy), he wasn't responsible for the actions of the majority of Americans, which he seems to be taking credit for.

so, i'm kind of neutral on the issue. Bush did a bang up job of keeping cool, calm, and collected immediately following the attacks. he didn't go about and slaughter anyone capable of doing it, he figured it out first. he stood on TV and made speeches he probably didn't write, but he WAS there. the entire nation watched him, and he stood proud, so we all did.

i don't like how he lumps the spirit of the american citizens with himself though. Firemen from Minnesota came to New York out of their own free will, not because Bush told them to. he seems to be taking credit for basic human decency / a deisre to help others.

ahhh. a surge of patriotism just swelled in me when i remembered all those people who came to the aid of new york. see? it's working.

USA! USA! USA!

[FlameFlash]

It's very impressive that just three little ads cause so much conversation.

I just wish I could ad something...

Sava, do you have any more of those Hitler/Bush images? I have a friend who has been saying the same thing and know he'd get a kick out of seeing it.

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap
Cause brit Hume (ex republican speechwriter) of course is completely umbiased...

And again, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU PEOPLE EXPECT! Is everyone here so utterly clueless about politics? All those attacks vs Kerry and him being called "Hanoi John", who the hell do you think started those? third party's? NO, people working and supporting Bush..



And we become obcessed with non-issues (this whole qadd thing is a non-issue), then people get cynical about styupid things and then wallow in their cynicism while ignoring important things.

Chris Matthews, democrat, had a number of spouses of 9/11 victims on his show last night who complained bitterly of Bush's ads.

Matthews then ran an ad by Kerry from last year where he too used 9/11 as a point in his argument about HIS leadership. Matthews then asked each of the spouses, in turn, whether they had the same feelings about Kerry's ad.

Well, I don't even have to tell you what they said, do I? We ALL know what the answer was and, more than that, we know WHY.

[Ned]

A major reason the democrats are politicizing these adds is "free adverstising" by the news who not only denegrate the ads free of charge for the Dems, but also keep Kerry's name in the news.

[DanS]

Maybe he should've checked with Ms. Hughes before stating that before Congress in 2002.

He isn't making it a political issue, but rather his response to 9/11 is the political issue. Bush's response is fair game for both sides.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


An anyone who actully pays atention will tell you, these are not MoveOn's ads. They were ads submitted by indivudals as part of a contest. There were over 1500 ads submitted. The one's you mentioned weren't even selected to be voted on.

I phrased it wrong -- I should have stated, "Some of the proposed ads presented to MoveOn . . . .


I am aware what the process involved, but thanks for pointing out my error.