Brand Spanking New ACS Fantasy Baseball Record

[Guynemer]

The Love Haters--

C: #6 Mike Piazza (11 win shares)
1B: #1 Todd Helton (34)
2B: #9 Luis Castillo (22)
3B: #2 Scott Rolen (25)
SS: #7 Orlando Cabrera (20)
CF: #3 Preston Wilson (20)
OF: #11 Richard Hidalgo (20)
OF: #14 Juan Gonzalez (10)
U:

SP: #4 Esteban Loaiza (22)
SP: #5 Barry Zito (18)
SP: #10 Livan Hernandez (22)
SP: #13 Woody Williams (13)
RP: #8 Joe Borowski (14)
RP: #12 LaTroy Hawkins (13)

Bear in mind that both Piazza and Gonzalez only played about half a season.

That's all very interesting. One question:

What in the name of high holy hell is a win-share?

[Imran Siddiqui]

What in the name of high holy hell is a win-share?

It's a new measure created by Bill James (who has created many states including Runs Created). Basically it is a 'Wins Created' stat.

This is the link to the book:

http://www.stats.com/store/store.asp?page=wins

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Um YES, they are. Park effects, differences from the mean in hitting catagories are both taken into account in the Win Shares system.

which is stupid. hitting categories are only as good as the team faced. i bet tiger stadium is ranked as a 'hitters park' but only cuz the pitchers blow.

[Berzerker]

jdd, send them to Imran and me

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Manny = 28
Nomar = 25
Mueller = 23 (with questionable sustainability)
Nixon = 19
Varitek = 17
Ortiz = 15
Walker = 15
Petitte = 15
Baldelli = 14
Lowe = 12
Timlin = 8
Guillen = 20
Nen = DNP

[Lawrence of Arabia]

R. Ortiz = 16

total = 217 + rob nen
average = 16.7 + robb nen

[Lawrence of Arabia]

in 02, robb nen had a 15 ws.

so total = 242.0
average = 17.3

[Vlad Antlerkov]

LoA: Guillen played in both leagues, so his WS are a bit out of whack... he had 3 WS for Oakland, 17 for Cincy, so 20 total.

As for the Tigers' home park...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/DET/2003.shtml

Park factors for the '03 Tigers were 95/95 (basically, Comerica decreased RS and RA by about 5%).

Now if you want a team whose performance was really out of whack... go here. Look at the Royals. (Also note that the Red Sox played 7 games WORSE than their actual W-L record, and that the Braves were better than the Phillies anyway.)

[Imran Siddiqui]

hitting categories are only as good as the team faced.

Indeed, that is why it is compared with the mean pitching ERA of the teams in the league they played against.

i bet tiger stadium is ranked as a 'hitters park' but only cuz the pitchers blow.

No, because of runs/game (both teams) compared to the runs/game of teams in other parks (especially the home team).

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Indeed, that is why it is compared with the mean pitching ERA of the teams in the league they played against.

right, so you have a crappy division (like NL West) where the mean ERA is very high. not to mention, when they play interleague, which mean do they use? the mean of the mean? or the median?

[Berzerker]

Are we still waiting on Soul Survivor and then Jdd?

[Imran Siddiqui]

right, so you have a crappy division (like NL West) where the mean ERA is very high.

They use the mean ERA of all teams that come in and how many earned runs they give up, etc. The mean is the average of runs/game of ALL ballparks and the differences from that to the specific ballpark. How it differs. And you take averages from all the years the park has been in existance.

Here is the mathematical formula:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/parkadjust.shtml

I could copy it here, but it's absolutely massive.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

oh ****, i just remembered that i have his pick

SS picks A. Boone.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Are we still waiting on Soul Survivor and then Jdd?

yep.

[Soul Survivor]

sorry about the delay I haven't had time to stop by all day

A. Kennedy