LoTR coronation and other moments

[Dr Strangelove]

I would have liked to have seen Cold Mountain get more recognition.

I'm glad that a great novel got the cinematic treatment it deserved. I only wish that the novel Dune had gotten such tender loving care.

[MrBaggins]

The showing of Cold Reception that I went to, had a very sarcastic crowd. There was a fair bit of jeering, and some amusement at the accents, with a guy to my right doing a parody of Kidman and Zellweger, until someone told him to shut up. For me, he was way more entertaining than the film, and the highlight of the show.

I don't think people connected with the film... it seemed... lackluster. The Seabiscuit crowd was far more enthralled. The M&C showing was odd... I was into the film, until this b!tch in front of me (if I'm using my most kind and reserved sentiment) started discussing what was going on, loud enough to be distracting. The film was dragging a bit by that point, though...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Murray didn't particularly need direction considering he's seen and been involved in more productions than Sophia's been alive for.

And? He's never really done a film like this before.

Plus he did enough improv, that its somewhat surprising that he wasn't up for the Original Screenplay, for co-writer.

You'd think he improved the entire movie from dumb quotes like this.

I mean... Starwars got no Best Picture wins (in 5 attempts)??? That must really sting with your being a StarWars fan and all, especially with the sweep by ROTK this year.

Starwars never deserved it. It was a 'fun' movie, but never the best. Annie Hall was greatly superior to the first one. It had crappy acting and not very good direction. I have a feeling ROTK's sweep will be seen by future generations like Titanic's 11 wins is by us .

It's nice you think I 'envy' your film. But only the most blind fanboys think their vastly overrated film deserved all those Oscars. Oh wait... you would be one of them, wouldn't you?

[Lung]

God, what a pack of sore losers

I haven't seen any of the other nominations yet, but i saw ROTK and, like its prequels, was thoroughly entertained. What's so wrong about that?

Just because some of you don't consider entertainment in your valuation of what constitutes a good movie, don't expect the rest of the world to think the same way You people are free to be film snobs, it's just that no one else thinks you're special

I don't often agree with the academy, but i take awards for what they are - mutual adoration and back-slapping among peers. As far as they're concerned, the rest of us can take it or leave it. So don't lose sleep over it! If you think some mind-numbingly boring arty-farty movie meets your narrow view of what makes a good movie, then have your own awards. Just don't whinge when no one else turns up!

As for the Kiwis, what makes you think us Aussies aren't happy for you sheep-rooters? Just because you have such a big chip on your collective shoulder that you hope we get beaten by everyone at everything and secretly hope that someone nukes us on your behalf, doesn't mean we return the compliment

GET A LIFE!

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Murray didn't particularly need direction considering he's seen and been involved in more productions than Sophia's been alive for.

And? He's never really done a film like this before.

And you might have a point if that were correct... but its not... he was in Coffee and Cigarettes by
Jim Jarmusch, for example. Good movie, FWIW.

You'd think he improved the entire movie from dumb quotes like this.

The point is that he certainly helped Sophia, more than Sophia helped him... as did Daddy, I'm sure.

Starwars never deserved it. It was a 'fun' movie, but never the best. Annie Hall was greatly superior to the first one. It had crappy acting and not very good direction. I have a feeling ROTK's sweep will be seen by future generations like Titanic's 11 wins is by us .

Based on what precident? Titanic didn't get the unanimous praise and mass kudos that LOTR has garnered... in fact its won pretty much every precursor, and been raved by most every reviewer on earth.

It looks more like a Gone With the Wind or Ben Hur acknowledgement, than Titanic, from this vantagepoint.

It's nice you think I 'envy' your film. But only the most blind fanboys think their vastly overrated film deserved all those Oscars. Oh wait... you would be one of them, wouldn't you?

If you don't envy the film, why have you been spending quite so long criticizing it?

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I have a feeling ROTK's sweep will be seen by future generations like Titanic's 11 wins is by us

Really, who cares about a sweep? Do you remember who won for best sound effects editing in 1997? Who cares?

I have a hard time believing I will look back at ROTK's best pic win the same way I look back at Titanic's--a mix of disdain, horror, incredulity, and resignation.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And you might have a point if that were correct... but its not... he was in Coffee and Cigarettes by
Jim Jarmusch, for example.

An arty film no one has ever heard of?

The point is that he certainly helped Sophia, more than Sophia helped him

And I'm sure Ian McKellan helped Peter Jackson more than Jackson helped him. What is your point again?

Titanic didn't get the unanimous praise and mass kudos that LOTR has garnered

You're kidding right? Titanic was just about the same forgone conclusion as ROTK was. It was racking up awards and taking names.

If you don't envy the film, why have you been spending quite so long criticizing it?

So you must be envious to critisize something for 'so long'. I guess we are ALL envious of Titanic here? Are the liberals envious of George Bush?

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Tolkien was not a particularly intelligent man, and not a great writer.

He was a damn sight more intelligent than you.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You're kidding right? Titanic was just about the same forgone conclusion as ROTK was. It was racking up awards and taking names.

On the contrary, Imran. He is talking about critical opinion, not awards. A very, very substantial portion of critics found Titanic to be rather soulless and ridiculous. The reviews were decidedly mixed--some great, some good, some bad, some awful.

You'll find ROTK's reviews to be significantly more one-sided.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I have a hard time believing I will look back at ROTK's best pic win the same way I look back at Titanic's--a mix of disdain, horror, incredulity, and resignation.

It's because you were a guy reacting to a chick flick . For all the talk about how women liked it, most women I've spoken to snored through it. You ARE the target audience.

[Guynemer]

Anecdotal evidence--I thought law students were better than that.

I read an article--for the life of me, can't remember where--that said that the LOTR audience was split 50/50 genderwise.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Are the liberals envious of George Bush?

In some respects, yes.

After all, they say that ignorance is bliss--if true, Dubya must be positively orgasmic.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I read an article--for the life of me, can't remember where--that said that the LOTR audience was split 50/50 genderwise.

But how did they enjoy it? After all, just because someone sees a movie, doesn't mean they like it.

After all, they say that ignorance is bliss--if true, Dubya must be positively orgasmic.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
But how did they enjoy it? After all, just because someone sees a movie, doesn't mean they like it.

Well, if we're doing anecdotal evidence, I'll rely on my fiancee.

She was an even latercomer to LOTR than I, never read the books or anything like them, even more lukewarm about the previous installments--and she loved it.

[monolith94]

Coffe and Cigarettes hasn't even been released in America yet.