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  • Obviously, but we are not in conflict with NK, and dispite all the talking heads have not been in danger of a full scale conventional conflict in decades.

    Thats like saying "if we have a war with China we are going to have a draft," or "If I put my hand on a hot stove it will get burned."

    DUH!!!
    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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    • I'd rather go to jail than be cannon fodder.

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      • I would hardly call a 1/5700 chance of bieng killed cannon fodder.

        Of course if we drafted a million people you chances would be 1/8500. So a guess I should support the draft as it increases my chances of survival.
        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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        • Someone actually believes a story in inymedia? How sad.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • Originally posted by notyoueither
            I think that Star Ship Troopers has it right. Only those who serve should have the vote or any other control over policy. After all, isn't one of the primary criticisms of the 'chicken hawks' that they didn't grab their M16s and go shoot Ho?
            No, the criticism is that they chickened out of a war they publically supported and that today they want to tell others to go fight. Honest draft dodging doesn't hurt you, unless you're a Repug (then you have to have dishonestly dodged). It didn't hurt Clinton. It didn't hurt Quayle. Didn't even hurt Dubya. So many Americans disagreed with the war that avoid the war isn't a problem. It's being a liar or an hypocrite that hurts you.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • Originally posted by DinoDoc
              Someone actually believes a story in inymedia? How sad.
              Indymedia isn't inherently false. You just need additional sources to consider it serious, as they don't do any fact checking.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • A draft in an election year?

                Besides, we're a long way away from needing a draft. Yes, recruitment is down, but the armed forces still have quite a few volunteers.
                I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                • Reserve and Guard retention and recruitment is down also. Quite a bit too, from what I'm led to believe.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • But they had quite a few extra that were being turned away- about 50,000/year for the army alone, I believe.

                    Now they're around the break even point. Further erosion could occur depending on what happens overseas in Afghanistan and Iraq.
                    I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                    I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                    • Once again, this year we outprocessed/fired 400 aviation students alone. There are so many aplicants that we don't need to keep people who can't make the grades.

                      Honest draft dodging
                      Ha. I bet there were a few idealists who genuinly disagreed with things in their heart and could not make themselves go to Vietnam. However, the majority were hippie cowards who wouldn't have fought in ANY war and used the anti-Vietnam ideology as a shield. Wouldn't lift a finger if Russian tanks were rolling down Pennsylvania Ave, that is if they could be bothered to stop looting for five minutes to notice.
                      "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                      • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                        Indymedia isn't inherently false.
                        Of course not. It's a good clue about if a story is BS though.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • However, the majority were hippie cowards who wouldn't have fought in ANY war and used the anti-Vietnam ideology as a shield. Wouldn't lift a finger if Russian tanks were rolling down Pennsylvania Ave, that is if they could be bothered to stop looting for five minutes to notice.
                          wow, you just said that. I didn't think there were any of you people left. I guess I was wrong. huh makes you wonder
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                          • No, it is just that most people are have grow up since their hippie days and come to their sences, not need to remind them of what they now know.

                            Good Simpsons on that, was on two days ago.
                            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                            • Good, just in time for me to recieve my assualt weapons license... heh....draft me... in a coffin.....
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                              • it'll never happen. its political sucide. the only way it could is if al qaeda manaages another succesful strike against america, similar to world trade center.
                                "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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