Stern suspended!

[Ned]

Originally posted by Jac de Molay


Yeah, it does suck. And that's why people need to quit being vacuous sheep and seek out independent media. There's ultimately a choice,no matter how much conglomeration there is, and people have the choice not to be spoonfed crap.

Stern's not funny, despite his popularity with the mouthbreathing set. And Clear channel will have to succumb to putting him back on at some point. Besides, what's a few million here and there in fines when you own a gazillion stations plus ticket distribution

Unto each his own. The beauty of a free market of ideas is that there are different viewpoints available to be discussed.

DOWN with CENSORSHIP. DOWN with government control of media.

I think government should permanently get out of the media ownership/subsidy/regulation business. Government only causes problems, distortions and propaganda.

A free press is the only guarantee of liberty!

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Ned


Unto each his own. The beauty of a free market of ideas is that there are different viewpoints available to be discussed.

DOWN with CENSORSHIP. DOWN with government control of media.

I think government should permanently get out of the media ownership/subsidy/regulation business. Government only causes problems, distortions and propaganda.

A free press is the only guarantee of liberty!

I agree with you

A good example about what happens if a politician gets control over mass media (or rather if someone who has control over mass media becomes Politician) is Silvio Berlusconi in Italy

[Pekka]

What is this FCC? Sounds like a cencorshippers to me? What is its function? Why does it monitor anything?

All I gotta say is, if you don't like it, turn it off or change the channel. If boobies offend you, why continue being offended? I don't keep my hand on a burning stove, I take it away.

I like my radio with obscenity, crappy music, good music, and I like it can have it all, so I can choose what I want to listen at any moment.

If a womans naked boob is obscene, or wrong, or pornography if it's just a boob and not in porno movie, nothing wrong in it, and if someone thinks it is, I think they are the ones with the problem. Or, I'd like to hear those thoughts, why boobs are obscene, wrong or too much exposing of the female form. Sounds weird to me, I like my boobs on the telly. I like them on commercials, I like them on anywhere. I don't have to watch it, but often times I find the urge to watch it anyway. But it's my choice and I like it. If I have a kid, I won't be teaching the kid that boob is wrong and nasty. I mean, the baby is sucking on it more than daddy anyway for a long time.

Same for radio, if someone chooses to air obscenity, so be it. It can be boycotted sure, but it shouldn't be punished for it, if it's not illegal material. Don't like it? Fine, turn it off, offended beyond any beliefs? Fine, boycott. But don't censor it, or punish for it........

Only thing that is a factor is what Oerdin said, that kids might be seeing or hearing obscenity, which boobs are not, but excessive use of swear words could be. First responsibility is with the parents. They should know what the kid is listening. If the kid is past 12 and it's impossible to tell what they are listening, they should have the freedom to be listening it. I was listening a NASTY radio show when I was 11. I was a huge fan of it too and so were my friends. I can tell you right now it was a lot mroe nasty than Stern. But it was fun. Parents should spend more time with their kids anyway and not just put them in front of the stupid box all day long. Or watch with them and change the channel if they start showing boobies.

Censorship = Bad

[Pekka]

So, why is my opinion any more valid than the ones that want to get offended on every corner and try to have these shut down? It's because it limits my options. It limits what I like. I'm not limiting the offended ones options to choose what they want to hear. If they want to listen what ever I don't like, they can do that. But they shouldn't be getting the ones that I listen shut down. They shouldn't force me to play by what they don't find great, obviously I do have a bad taste but that's the way I like it and wouldn't change it for the world. So, I'm not telling anyone what to listen, all I'm saying don't limit my options, as I'm not about to do the same to you.

It's like forcing to share. I share if I want to, not because I have to. Like Communism. Censorship = Communism. No wait.. FCC? Forceful Communist Censorships? Riight...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Pekka
What is this FCC? Sounds like a cencorshippers to me? What is its function? Why does it monitor anything?

http://www.fcc.gov/aboutus.html

[Pekka]

DD, thanks. I looked it through fast but it was kind of difficult to get any grip from it, looks like they have a bigger pile to handle than just getting these radio shows.

Well, I was shooting crap anyway, but basics stands, I like to have options to choose from basically. THat's all. Good night.

[mrmitchell]

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent United States government agency, directly responsible to Congress. The FCC was established by the Communications Act of 1934 and is charged with regulating interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable. The FCC's jurisdiction covers the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and U.S. possessions.

I thought this said incompetent.

[DinoDoc]

That sounds like you need to see a doctor.

[Ned]

The problem with the Superbowl and Janet Jackson was that what happened was a "surprise." Had the half-time show been rated R, or whatever, parents would have been able to turn to another channel if they wanted during halftime.

[Dis]

It's a ****ing breast!!

half the population has them.

It shouldn't be rated anything.

Breast feeding infants get to see breasts all the time. It's not like kids have not seen one before.

[Elok]

I think the only sensible reason to object so much to the Janet Jackson thing is that Timberlake just ripped half her top off, and she stylistically gasped and covered herself up, all as a stunt. I'm not going to start the tired kids-are-going-to-imitate-this argument, but that kind of crap objectifies women pretty badly. "Hey, look, forcibly stripping women in public is entertaining!" Ya know?

[Jac de Molay]

Originally posted by Ned


Unto each his own. The beauty of a free market of ideas is that there are different viewpoints available to be discussed.

DOWN with CENSORSHIP. DOWN with government control of media.

I think government should permanently get out of the media ownership/subsidy/regulation business. Government only causes problems, distortions and propaganda.

A free press is the only guarantee of liberty!

I'm not in favor of censorship. There should be some ground rules set for network TV to establish a common ground for programming that families can watch together and not to apologize/explain objectionable behavior to their kids. I think something like the Super Bowl falls into that category.

Cable's a different story, IMO, and you're right that the government should butt out.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Jac de Molay


I'm not in favor of censorship. There should be some ground rules set for network TV to establish a common ground for programming that families can watch together and not to apologize/explain objectionable behavior to their kids. I think something like the Super Bowl falls into that category.

Cable's a different story, IMO, and you're right that the government should butt out.

Jac, the existence of cable, in the vast majority of households without censorship, illustrates the hypocrisy of the would-be-censors.

[Guynemer]

Hmmm...

Far be it from me to defend Howard Stern--I think he's a ***** of the first-order.

BUT, I find it interesting that at the same time Clear Channel is removing him from their stations for "indecency", they are simultaneously putting Michael "you should only get AIDS and die, pig!" Savage on their station in Houston.


I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but it's not exactly a secret that Clear Channel is run by conservatives; Savage is an archconservative, while Stern is... heaven only knows, but he isn't Bush's biggest fan, that's for damned sure.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Guynemer
while Stern is...

a purile old man with a wornout act?