Is Progressive Taxation Discrimination

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Is a progressive tax system discrimination aginst rich people?

[Asher]

Obviously. Whether that's good or bad is another matter...

[Lawrence of Arabia]

can discrimination be good?

[Asher]

Yes: see legal driving age.

[Proteus_MST]

As some of the money which is taken from the rich benefits those who really need it (i.e. the poor) by funding of social Projects, schools and the like,
I assume that yes, Discrimination in this case may be good.

[Az]

Yes, it is. Yes, it can be good.

[Barinthus]

Those with greater means have a moral responsibility to help out the not so fortunate.

So yes it is discriminative but it is for the good of the society.

I'm not going to shed tears for someone who have to settle for a $9.5 million house that has that and this that needs to be fixed instead of that brand new $10 million house he could have gotten if it was not for the tax.

[Berzerker]

legalised stealing is moral? If there were no government to do your stealing, would you really walk around stealing from others and telling them how moral you are and how immoral they are for not appreciating your special insights into morality?

[Az]

legalised stealing is moral? If there were no government to do your stealing, would you really walk around stealing from others and telling them how moral you are and how immoral they are for not appreciating your special insights into morality?

Yes, legalized stealing is ethical, because it brings utility, hapiness, you know that thing that all people want. You still didn't explain from which planet your concept of rights did arrive.

[Berzerker]

Yes, legalized stealing is ethical, because it brings utility, hapiness, you know that thing that all people want.

You mean you become happy when someone steals from you? What if other people don't share your definition of happiness? And if you people really believed in "utility" you'd be giving up a kidney to people in need of one.

You still didn't explain from which planet your concept of rights did arrive.

Rights derive from universal desires and are personal in nature, i.e., you don't have a "right" to involve others against their will. For example, if you want to be religious, you don't have a right to compel me to build or attend your church.

[Barinthus]

Originally posted by Berzerker
legalised stealing is moral? If there were no government to do your stealing, would you really walk around stealing from others and telling them how moral you are and how immoral they are for not appreciating your special insights into morality?

:shrug: It depends on where you're from, I suppose.

In Kenya, for instance, there's no such thing as private property. What I mean, while there is a such thing as ownership, people fully expect you to share especially if you have excess of certain something.

[monkspider]

No it's not, people choose to be rich, fat swine.

[Berzerker]

It depends on where you're from, I suppose.

In Kenya, for instance, there's no such thing as private property. What I mean, while there is a such thing as ownership, people fully expect you to share especially if you have excess of certain something.

So if I walked up to a cattle herder with 20 cows and stole 10 he wouldn't mind?

[Edan]

Originally posted by Berzerker


So if I walked up to a cattle herder with 20 cows and stole 10 he wouldn't mind?

Are you going to keep all ten for yourself?

[David Floyd]

I think Berz touched on a great argument against people who believe we have a moral responsibility to help those in need - if that's the case, then go donate a kidney, and then come talk. There are people who need your kidney more than my money, after all.