Does a single person here find this racist? My rant on my sociology class

[yavoon]

we need a racist jokes thread.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by yavoon
we need a racist jokes thread.

What's 12 inches long and white?

[Japher]

Cannibal? My first thought was of the A-Team.

The joke is not racist, but self-rightous closet racists could interpret it as such. I think he doth protest too much... I say!

What's 12 inches long and white?

The Caucasion section of the unemployment line?

What do you get when you cross a Mexican with a black guy?

[The Mad Viking]

Che, I agree that the joke used stereotypes and was inappropriate.

However, "people of colour in general" is not a race, nor a viable "category", IMO.

Are Chinese "people of colour"? My guess is, it depends.

On whether they are being picked on, or doing the picking-on...

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh


That's the most racist phrase posted in this thread so far...

I think chegitz is actually spot on- there was a soft drink on sale in Great Britain a few years ago, called:

'Um Bongo'.

It was a mixture of fruit juices, sugar and water, guaranteed to send a diabetic into an instant coma. The advertising jingle ran something like:

'Way down deep in the middle of the Congo,
A hippo took an apricot, a guava and a mango.
He stuck it with the others, and he danced a dainty tango.

The rhino said, "I know, we'll call it Um Bongo",
Um Bongo, They drink it in the Congo.

The python picked the passion fruit, the marmoset the mandarin.
The parrot painted packets, that the whole caboodle landed in.

So when it comes to sun and fun and goodness in the jungle,
They all prefer the sunny funny one they call "Um Bongo". *

with cartoon animals in a jungle, and much business about passion fruit and elephants and something else.
This may be a shortcut to the video and mp3 of the advertisement:

http://www.umbongo.com/bongo_downloads.html

They chose to run this advertisement during the ad breaks in a showing of 'Live and Let Die', which I thought was hilariously ironic. Quite a few of my friends thought it rather stupid, but none of them were overly offended by it, but a couple said they hadn't actually been to the jungle, having been brought up in Lagos, and Abidjan.

* Japanese babelfish translation:

Deeply method with the Congolese center, the hippo apricot, took the guava and the ???. He attached that of other things, the cute tango danced. You called the Rhino, " I, us that it calls the um Bongo " and, the um Bongo and the um Bongo, those have known the Congolese that is drunk. The passionate fruit namely the marmoset the mandarin it chose the Python. The ??? that all caboodle which lands painted the package. So, when that bleaching in the pleasure and merit day of the jungle coming, brightly strange one where those call all um Bongo is liked,!

[Agathon]

I like animals and the jungle.

What's wrong with having dancing natives if one has a quite positive image of them?

Anything they have them do can't be less dignified than what your average white male does in an advertisement.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


What's 12 inches long and white?

Floppy or hard?

If the latter, in my extensive experience, nothing, absolutely nothing.

If the former, John Holmes is dead.

Mad Viking- please tell me which African peoples routinely practised cannibalism. As opposed to those who had the practice ascribed to them.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by paiktis22
FUnny joke. I've heard it before. It IS of course racist as it perpetuates stereotypes made up by only a handful of countries.

it's HUMOR

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Agathon
I like animals and the jungle.

What's wrong with having dancing natives if one has a quite positive image of them?

Anything they have them do can't be less dignified than what your average white male does in an advertisement.

Such as drive an expensive car, have supermodels make passes at them, have a high-powered or well paid job....

Well the list could go on for some time, but you know what the point is Aggie, you're better than that.

It reminds me of a series of advertisements (also from the U.K.) where they tried to sell those 'delicious' cook at home sauces by using 'ethnic' families as the consumers.

So we saw a supposedly Sikh family (I think they were meant to be Liverpudlian if memory serves) dishing up one of these culinary experiences.

Except the d!ckwads who put the advertisement together had never either met a Sikh family (or a Sikh) seen a picture of one, or done any research.

The man was clean shaven- not a faux pas in itself, but then he was wearing a turban. Except the turban was like one of those things from a cheap pantomime, and was just sat on his head like a collection of bandages.

I just looked at the wannabe cool advert and thought how well they had shot themselves in the foot, whilst attempting to be all multi-culti Cool Britannia.

Stereotypes and cliches.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by skywalker
it's HUMOR

And? Humor has consequences just like the rest of social interactions you know? Humor can strengthen prejudices exactly the same as a casual word.

[Kuciwalker]

So?

Humor = funny

funny = good

[Spiffor]

"humour bearing and strengthening racist predjudices": is that good too?

[Kuciwalker]

uber-racist jokes = !humor = !funny = !good = bad

[Agathon]

Originally posted by molly bloom


Such as drive an expensive car, have supermodels make passes at them, have a high-powered or well paid job....

Or be humiliated by women, or pull moronic faces, or be covered in filth?

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by skywalker
So?

Humor = funny

funny = good

Err- heard any really funny jokes about victims of thalidomide? Told any to a person affected by it?

How about child molestation jokes, or rape jokes?

The old one about what's worse than dating Jack the Ripper?

Of course when you see the effect one of those jokes has on a person who has been raped, the humour seems, well, not humorous at all.

Humour can be intended to hurt, as any playground or school bully could attest. Or indeed, any wit such as Alexander Pope, or Oscar Wilde.

Have you seen Patrice Leconte's film 'Ridicule'?

A good example of the consequences when jokes go too far.