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  • #91
    In a way, then, Pearl Harbor was not the real start of US involvement in WWII.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Urban Ranger
      Ned, the assassination could hardly be seen as the beginning of WWI. It might be the immediate cause of WWI, but not the start.
      Ok then what would you call the start of the war?
      Who is Barinthus?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Ned

        Given the above, Hitler might actually have had a better case than Bush.
        One sensible statement, one more than average per nedpost.
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        • #94
          The Mad Viking, it does illustrate that we need a good definition of "aggressive war." It has never been defined.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by Ned
            The Mad Viking, it does illustrate that we need a good definition of "aggressive war." It has never been defined.
            Although all of Hitlers war were.
            "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Ned
              Spiffor, are you unaware that Stalin invaded Poland at the same time Hitler did - and for the same reason -- to get back lands stolen from them during World War I?
              In that regars, Stalin launched an agressivez war against Poland.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by DataAeolus
                Ok then what would you call the start of the war?
                When a coutnry first took hostile action against another country, i.e when Austria declared war to Serbia. The prince was killed by a terrorist group, it was not monitored by Serbian authorities.
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                • #98
                  Spiffor, Well, then, it is easy for government to attack others, then, and not be agressors. They simply create a terrorist group, arm them and point them in the right direction.
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                  • #99
                    The prince was killed by a terrorist group, it was not monitored by Serbian authorities.


                    Actually the group (Black Hand Group) had ties to Serbian government officials. It was basically a government supported terrorist group.
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                    • no remorse, no regret.

                      Can't change the past. Who cares about the Iraq war now.

                      We have a job to do. And that is to stabilize and rebuild the country.

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                      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        The prince was killed by a terrorist group, it was not monitored by Serbian authorities.


                        Actually the group (Black Hand Group) had ties to Serbian government officials. It was basically a government supported terrorist group.
                        Was it the Serbs, then, who invented modern terrorism?
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