Bush Just Lost the Election

[JohnT]

"It's the economy, stupid."

No truer words have been spoken.

[DinoDoc]

Is it November already?

[uh Clem]

Bush is about to be outsourced.

[curtsibling]

To a small ranch in Mongolia!

[DanS]

From a shareholder's perspective its good, from an employees perspective its bad. From an economy viewpoint its bad as well as money is flowing out of the country.

Wrong on both accounts. Over time, the remaining employees and customers are almost the sole beneficiaries of outsourcing. Companies are no more profitable today than they were before outsourcing became a big thing.

Also, from an economic viewpoint, since we have fiat money, there's really no such thing as money "flowing out of the country". US Dollars are only legal tender in the United States, so you have to buy US goods or services with them. That is, unless you want to paper your walls with dollars, or burn dollars in an oven.

[SpencerH]

Che, I really think you've missed your calling in life. You consistently come up with the most humorous thread titles that make the most bizarre allegations. You should be in stand-up comedy. Given your political bent, you could be the next Lenny Bruce!

[SpencerH]

I just thought of a better career! Headline writer for the National Enquirer!

Enquiring minds want to know!

[Q Classic]

i hope bush loses the election, but having a bent towards free and open markets with the feeling that more trade is good trade, i don't see how this outsourcing is a bad thing.

why? let's look at the effects:

1. if this keeps up, there's something about competitive advantages which is supposed to happen.
2. if this keeps up, even if some people are hurt, more people benefit from the cheaper services.
3. if this keeps up, it's not as good for bush.

[Shi Huangdi]

Stupid comments this far in advance rarely decide elections. This one will be decided by 1) the economy and 2) Iraq.

[chequita guevara]

You can argue all you want about how outsourcing is a good thing, but in the minds of many people, outsourcing means replacing good jobs with McJobs. As one union official said, you can't have an economy where we all sell haircuts to one another. Praising sending jobs overseas, regardless of whether or not people like DanS or Floyd believe its a good thing, will not play well in Peoria.

donegal, I would suggest that you pay attention to the primary coverage. Every report I've seen, heard, and read, the number one issue, over all, is jobs.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And in other news:

Bush Numbers Take an Uptick

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by DaShi
That's what they will be talking about. But it won't truly affect the voting habits of average Americans. They are more concerned about their jobs and welfare. This is what is truly important to them, and thus the smarter criterion to vote on. Oddly, the only people who really vote based on a candidate's views on gay marriage or abortion are pseudo-intellectuals and the fanatically stupid.

That is untrue. Studies have shown that the socalled 'working poor', and the unemployed are generally not as participatory in voting for national elections because they think it will not make a difference anyway. Under Clinton for instance the expropriation of the working class continued at an accelerated class.

On the other hand in periods of decreasing wealth-disparity the poor tend to participate more in the political process.

The middle-class people who vote are those who think it important to further curtail the freedom of the American people. Or the people who think it neccesary to counter that. The first are motivated by a wish to administer punishement as a means of protecting their own diminishing incomes, while the latter are those who think that a freer populace will eventually rebel against the present structure.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by DanS
Over time, the remaining employees and customers are almost the sole beneficiaries of outsourcing.

Remaining employees. That's cold comfort to those who aren't retained.

Companies are no more profitable today than they were before outsourcing became a big thing.

If companies don't benefit then why would they do it?

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
You can argue all you want about how outsourcing is a good thing, but in the minds of many people, outsourcing means replacing good jobs with McJobs. As one union official said, you can't have an economy where we all sell haircuts to one another. Praising sending jobs overseas, regardless of whether or not people like DanS or Floyd believe its a good thing, will not play well in Peoria.

You may be right that it is the publics perception of outsourcing that matters. Personally, I think most of them are too stupid to understand it, one way or another. A huge chunk of people have already decided who they will vote for, not based on issues, policies, or even beliefs. Most peoples vote is based upon 'eye candy'.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by David Floyd
What's wrong with sending jobs overseas, if doing so will increase profits? What else would be the point of business, if not to maximize profits?

Ask when you're looking for a job, and your unemployed ass doesn't have any money to spend on the crap that's made overseas.