Newspaper: Al-Qaida Has Suitcase Nukes

[:) Smiley]

This may actually be a good thing if they have nukes. Since they know if they use it, their country's gonna be turned into a big smoking hole, they'll be reluctant to use it except as a last resort. Likewise, the US will be less inclined to invade left and right. It'd be M.A.D. cold-war style.

[Kuciwalker]

I don't think America would lose it's allies if it got nuked, whatever the response (at least, short of turning the entire Muslim world into glow-in-the-dark-stained glass). I think the thinking would be more like "oh ****, they can NUKE us oh **** oh **** oh ****" and then a yellow stain on their crotch (incidentially, this would be the reaction of most Americans ).

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Pax Africanus
President Bush/FDR did not plan the wars the U.S. was involved in that's not necessarily the job of the leader. IMO, the best leaders are the ones who can gather the talent and make them work for you.

Indeed, good leaders can gather talent. Great ones, however, add in their own.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by skywalker
I don't think America would lose it's allies if it got nuked, whatever the response (at least, short of turning the entire Muslim world into glow-in-the-dark-stained glass). I think the thinking would be more like "oh ****, they can NUKE us oh **** oh **** oh ****" and then a yellow stain on their crotch (incidentially, this would be the reaction of most Americans ).

Unfortunately, I think most Americans would have the Muslims nuked. Even a few months after 9/11, a majority of Americans thought nukes should be used against the 'terrorists'. Some people, unfortunately, are criminally stupid.

[Kuciwalker]

I said the ENTIRE Muslim world. Most of us (including me) would probably be content with Mecca and Medina.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by skywalker
I said the ENTIRE Muslim world. Most of us (including me) would probably be content with Mecca and Medina.

Should I...



or

[Pax]

Skywalker,
1. Let's nuke Jerusalem to show the muslims we mean business. That is one of their holy cities.
2. Put the nuke down and step away from the baby.

[Kuciwalker]

1. Let's nuke Jerusalem to show the muslims we mean business. That is one of their holy cities.

Nah, Jerusalem is in Israel and is holy to other religions too. However, if necessary we could just deny muslims access Mecca and Medina are purely muslim

2. Put the nuke down and step away from the baby.

[Pax]

Originally posted by skywalker
[q]Nah, Jerusalem is in Israel and is holy to other religions too. However, if necessary we could just deny muslims access Mecca and Medina are purely muslim

That's the point. Besides, Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same god. So by attacking the places on the basis of religion you're declaring war on your god.
Good luck and please don't stand next to me

[notyoueither]

MAD is based on the possibility and the consequences of the reaction being far too horrible to even think about taking the action.

It is entirely possible to imagine that even terrorists would be detered if they thought the reaction would hurt something too near and dear to them.

A nuke used anywhere in NATO would provoke a reaction that even OBL would not like to contemplate.

[Sava]

Originally posted by obstructor


Sorry - didn`t notice the fact it is foreign - but it is still stupid.

Mass destruction weapons can`t be found on every corner despite what you government thinks.

I respect a bit of paranoia but this si too much.

And about the fact I am Croatia -
well I am form country that suffered much more casulties than you September 11 in recent war, and I am not paranoid about the fact that Ultraradicals, in our former enemy state, have won 28 percent of the votes on general elections solely on program that includes creating Great Serbia and butchering Croats and Moslems.

Not a bit afraid or paranoid.

maybe you {EXPLATIVES] shouldn't have flown the Usteche (nazi collaborators) flag again... never again...

[Gatekeeper]

In the end, I tend to agree with those who postulate that if al-Qaida possessed suitcase nukes, they would've used them by now. If not America, then in Europe. Since neither has happened, al-Qaida's bite is likely limited to more conventional means. Sept. 11, 2001, was their, ah, high-water point. It's been draining ever since.

Nonetheless, it can't hurt to keep one's eyes, ears and other senses open for stuff like this. Just don't put tinfoil on your head. It really doesn't stop the aliens from reading your mind.

Gatekeeper

[Agathon]

Despite what Eli said, if any city is going to get nuked, it's Tel Aviv. That would either lead to the destruction of most of the Middle East or the effective destruction of Israel, since the Israeli government would have to accept that it could no longer protect its citizens and would no doubt be the prime target for future attacks.

But AFAIK OBL has not attempted to attack Israel and the risk of nuclear retaliation would be too much I feel.

New York or Washington? Perhaps. But why would OBL want another terrorist attack? He got what he wanted - the US attacking and occupying Muslim countries, so that he could get at them. He's been quite clear about this - what he wants is exactly what happened to the Soviets - but this time to the US.

He wants to make the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan so politically unpopular at home that the US will eventually have to withdraw and will no longer be able to intervene in the Middle East due to domestic pressure. He saw what happened in Somalia after all.

If the US cannot intervene directly in the Middle East, then he wins since he will have effectively engineered the defeat of the world's only superpower and will immediately become a new Nasser-like figure. And more importantly, the Saudi regime loses its main supporter.

I haven't said this before, but OBL must jump for joy every time he hears US conservatives talk about abandoning the Saudi government, because the opposition are mainly Islamists like himself.

[notyoueither]

Except he isn't dealing with just the US in Afghanistan, he is dealing with NATO.

In Iraq, it is just a matter of time til he is dealing with the UN.

Getting the US of of SA removes one of his biggest means of gaining recruits and money. The infidel is no longer within the throw of a rock from the holy of holy places.

He should fear that he miscalculated.

[Pax]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Except he isn't dealing with just the US in Afghanistan, he is dealing with NATO.

In Iraq, it is just a matter of time til he is dealing with the UN.

Getting the US of of SA removes one of his biggest means of gaining recruits and money. The infidel is no longer within the throw of a rock from the holy of holy places.

He should fear that he miscalculated.

Getting the U.S. out of S.A. would be a win win situation then because that's one of OBL's goals. It's nice when we give in inadvertently then think we've won.



I think we should just call him on his cell and see what we can do to for peace. Talking does not mean we lose or win. This problem is older than OBL and it's going to continue to either we start talking or one side is dead.
think WW1 and 2. Dialogue PEOPLE!!!