Newspaper: Al-Qaida Has Suitcase Nukes

[ravagon]

I'm curious comrade ... What exactly do you find irrational about the way the US handled post Sept 11?

[Fake Boris]

Suitcase nuclear device?




BTW, Bin Laden is not a terribly brilliant man. Not that I can deduce his IQ or anything, but he's not at all a cultured man. He knows about nothing about the Western world, and he doesn't speak any of its major language.

I doubt we can guess his intentions with traditional, western-style, 'geo-strategic' reasoning.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by ravagon
I'm curious comrade ... What exactly do you find irrational about the way the US handled post Sept 11?

There is the Iraq war, which doesn't even desserve explanation. Just about everyone in the world is pissed at America for their unilateralism, and the country is on the verge of civil war.

Then there's the Patriot Act, which will do about nothing good. Efficient intelligent services need not abuse their citizen's privacy to prevent terrorism.

What about Afghanistan? Did you know why the Taliban were in power, in the first place? Because Karzai's Northern Alliance had been even worse, which is what allowed the Taliban to build up on the opposition against them.

Now, the Taliban warlords are controlling most of the countryside again, and Muslim fundamentalism is on the rise. America is screwing the humanitarian help they were supposed to give, and, in such, are not showing to the Afghan people their commitment towards helping them. The situation will probably worsen when Osama gets caught, if he hasn't already.

[Imran Siddiqui]

the country is on the verge of civil war.

Hyperbole much?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by ravagon
I'm curious comrade ... What exactly do you find irrational about the way the US handled post Sept 11?

To put it quite simply, the US has been acting like an arrogant ass all over the world.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

the country is on the verge of civil war.

Hyperbole much?

When a country requires the presence of 200,000 highly trained foreign soldiers to be kept peaceful, I call this 'on the verge of civil war'.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You didn't specify what country... I assumed you were refering to the US.

[Pax]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Suitcase nuclear device?




BTW, Bin Laden is not a terribly brilliant man. Not that I can deduce his IQ or anything, but he's not at all a cultured man. He knows about nothing about the Western world, and he doesn't speak any of its major language.

I doubt we can guess his intentions with traditional, western-style, 'geo-strategic' reasoning.

What requirement is it that he speak a European language to be brilliant. He's pretty damned smart. Don't underestimate a friend or enemy.
He was able to carry out successful attacks on the U.S. all over the world. He managed to cripple a U.S. warship and destroy several buildings on U.S. soil. The last time a country was able to do that was the war of 1812/Napoleonic wars.

He may not have originated the idea which only gives him more credit in the ability to utilize the talent he has available rather than be a one man show.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Originally posted by CerberusIV


If you're a suicide bomber who doesn't mind a lethal radiation dose and you don't care if it goes off in transit you can strip it down to that kind of size by dumping the casing and safety devices.

Then again if a nuclear device could be reduced to something that simple everyone would be making them.

The DHS has the details on the site. Are they lying when they say that suitcase bombs ar only 10 kilos?

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Pax Africanus


What requirement is it that he speak a European language to be brilliant. He's pretty damned smart. Don't underestimate a friend or enemy.
He was able to carry out successful attacks on the U.S. all over the world. He managed to cripple a U.S. warship and destroy several buildings on U.S. soil. The last time a country was able to do that was the war of 1812/Napoleonic wars.

He may not have originated the idea which only gives him more credit in the ability to utilize the talent he has available rather than be a one man show.

I meant that he doesn't truly understand the Western world (the same could be said of Western heads of state about the Middle-East, I guess). The hatred for America in the Muslim world is huge; but still, OBL can't manage to do more than sending a few kamikazes here and there. Besides, most evidence shows that he is not the brain behind the attacks, but a mere spiritual figure.

No, OBL is not a grand strategist.

[Docfeelgood]

bull****.

Concure.



Propaganda to instill fear in the public.

I recall some many moons ago on a news magazine show that there is no such thing as a "suitcase nuke".

Coventianal explosives in such a small space would creat a bigger explosin than a "suitcase nuke".


A small nuke artillary shell is quite big!


This type of propaganda is terrorism in it self.


"Panic and fear is the mind killer"

[notyoueither]

Right. The CIA planted the storey in the Islamic press. From there Rueters picked it up on the orders of their masters at the NSA. Meanwhile, Hearst's brain has been hooked up in a lab in area 51 and it is directing all efforts...

While the Cold War was still on, it was theorised that one of the most effective ways of stopping a Soviet armoured advance through Western Europe would be to have members of special ops groups with small devices secreted near major choke points of communications (bridges). When Warsaw Pact echelons was concentrated near the choke point and after most NATO forces were long gone, BOOM.

There is no reason to expect that these devices do not exist.

Denial of what is very possible is why we have intelligence failures in the first place. Pearl Harbour, you mean torpedoes in a harbour? 9/11, you mean several airliners simultaneously hijacked and flown into buildings purposely? You have to be joking!

[Guynemer]

I can't believe I'm saying this...

I agree with Dissident.

"bull****.

they would have used them by now"

[notyoueither]

What if you were worried the response would be Mecca turned into glowing glass?

Perhaps MAD applies to OBL?

[Pax]

President Bush/FDR did not plan the wars the U.S. was involved in that's not necessarily the job of the leader. IMO, the best leaders are the ones who can gather the talent and make them work for you.