Why do you believe in the Big Bang?

[Sava]

I don't believe all matter in the universe was originally concentrating in one place... that just doesn't make sense to me. I think the big bang was probably a real event, but I doubt it contained all matter. I suspect that when planets and star systems fall into black holes, they concentrate into larger and larger anomalies until they reach a sort of critical mass... then they expand (like the big band theory). I suspect that all the matter visible to us was part of a regional big bang (so to speak)... but if space goes on infinitely, it's reasonable to think there is more matter that's VERY FAR AWAY that was not part of the big bang that created the universe as we know it.

Even though I have formulated such a theory, I don't "believe" in it the same way religious people believe in their god. It's a theory that will no doubt change as I learn more. It's a static understanding I have... that's the difference between the religious and myself.

[MikeH]

I think that the Hot Big Bang theory explains the universe after the first 10E-49 of a second (or however long they can go back) better than any other theory we've got so far.

It's a bit dumb thinking it's the complete answer because it isn't.

[Cruddy]

Originally posted by Uber KruX


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a theologiest would ask, "well, what if the big bang was created by god?", and ascientist would scramble to find the answer that isn't there.

Apparently Stephen Hawking did the math that proved you didn't need an initiator for the Big Bang.

Mind you, he would type that on his synth voice, wouldn't he?

(He couldn't say it because he can't talk).

[Rogan Josh]

Stephen Hawking is a case in point I think. The guy is a pretty decent physicist I think, but there a lot of smarter kids on the block (so to speak). We never get to hear about the other guys because they aren't so 'weird' - the media focusses on SH and make him into some kind of supergenious just because of his disability. Star Trek even had him playing chess with Einstein -- pleeeease!

(That must really piss off Ed Witten, who most physicists think is the smartest kid on the block...)

[Sava]

Originally posted by Cruddy


Apparently Stephen Hawking did the math that proved you didn't need an initiator for the Big Bang.

Mind you, he would type that on his synth voice, wouldn't he?

(He couldn't say it because he can't talk).

whenever I think of Stephen Hawking, I always think of Ned from South Park... you know... the Vet who talks through that throat microphone...

[ned voice]
mmmmm... the universe was not created by god.mmmmm
[/nedvoice]

[Barinthus]

Actually more and more scientists are starting to say that they find religion and science to be comptiable. Seeing God in science, that sort of thing.

What blows my mind is how did Big Bang come to be? What was there before Big Bang? Then what was there before that? How did God came to be? Was there a beginning or perhaps there was no beginning?

[BeBMan]

I believe in the big bang everytime I see a nice woman....

[General Ludd]

God is physics.

[centrifuge]

The problem with the whole science vs religion debate is that people often seem to think that it has to be one or the other.

Why can't science just be thought of as a way of coming in closer contact with God? Science in no way disproves God's existance and should rather be thought of by fanatical theologians as a way of better understanding what God has created.

[yavoon]

there is one insoluble point w/ what I perceive as ur conclusion rogan.

you are attempting to poke holes in a scientific theory in order to forward a non-scientific theory. or even in general, shooting one theory up does not promote another.

it is obvious there is much about the universe still to be explained. but the utterly myopic view that shooting up honest, rigorous and effective attempts to explain the universe in favor of reffering to an old book a hunch or common sense is doomed to failure.

[curtsibling]

@centrifuge:

If only!

The creed of religionists: It's their way...Or some mythical hell place they have dreamed up.

The creed of scientists: There is no punishment for ignoring the logical world, only eventual humiliation.

[Verres]

Its so much better to know nothing about the origins of the universe at all - I can just look at the night sky and see a lot of pretty stars without wondering how they got there

[My Wife Hates CIV]

cosmic background radiation bud. that says it all. i would go so far as to say this proves the big bang - or at least something like the big bang did occur.

and the Big Bang sounds better than just 'god created it all', and I certainly don't see the evidence for a universe created by some god.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

'The theories all tell us that anti-matter must have been produced in equal amounts - so where did it go? '

wrong Rogan Josh... where did u get this bit of info. the universe was not perfect, more matter than anti-matter. i guess god would have been better... but there aint one! :O

[centrifuge]

Originally posted by curtsibling
@centrifuge:

If only!

The creed of religionists: It's their way...Or some mythical hell place they have dreamed up.

The creed of scientists: There is no punishment for ignoring the logical world, only eventual humiliation.

I'm a research scientist(Chemistry), I have authored several refereed article in the scientific literature etc. and yes I do believe that the majority of natural phenomenon can be explained by scientific means.

I also go to church every Sunday (well almost every Sunday ) I do so because I know that there is a difference between science and religion, and that one often compliments the other.

Moral of the story: Just because you believe in God doesn't mean that you can't believe in science and vice versa