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Everyone who believes there is a "left" or "right" is criminally stupid.
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Or just expedient, typing out every possible ideology (~280 million in this country alone?) and it's position on this or that would be "criminally" silly.
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using left/right is acceptable when describing economic policies (state controlled ---- laissez faire)...Originally posted by Berzerker
Or just expedient, typing out every possible ideology (~280 million in this country alone?) and it's position on this or that would be "criminally" silly.
but it's not that hard to elaborate beyond "left" or "right" when describing people... for instance, Bush isn't "right" per se... he's a corporatist... right would indicate free market... but Bush proves he's not a free marketer based upon the massive subsidation and corporate welfare aimed at business.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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You're wrong, Sava.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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GASP!!!!A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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Shouldn't that be Gathp?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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how so?You're wrong, Sava.
btw it wouldn't be the first time...To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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It's way to complicated to explain. So complicated that any attempt to describe it would be wrong.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
It's way to complicated to explain. So complicated that any attempt to describe it would be wrong.
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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For instance, your scale would put anarchists on the right and fascists on the left.
And corporatism is a right-wing ideology."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I think you guys are misinterpretting my post... I'm not saying Bush is economically left... he's on the right, just not as RIGHT as people think.Originally posted by Ramo
For instance, your scale would put anarchists on the right and fascists on the left.
And corporatism is a right-wing ideology.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Your scale is still wrong.
Hitler and Mussolini (and fascists in general) were corporatists, and most people would agree that they are on the far-right."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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well most people use a different scale...Originally posted by Ramo
Your scale is still wrong.
Hitler and Mussolini (and fascists in general) were corporatists, and most people would agree that they are on the far-right.
it still makes no sense... Hitler was slightly right of center on economic policy... the oppressive and violent aspects of his regime have little to do with his domestic economic policy.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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So where does a free tradist rate in comparision to say a corporatist? More right or more left?"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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more right... a true far-RIGHT would be like a libertarian economist. Corporatism has elements of state-subsidized business... which is inherently not free-market.Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
So where does a free tradist rate in comparision to say a corporatist? More right or more left?
The thing about Bush is that he is corrupt and tends to favor political allies with "bribes", and not necessarily all corporations in general. Corporatism is the closest ideology to Bush's policies. He uses conservative movements as a vehicle.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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They have everything to do with his domestic economic policy. How do you suppose Hitler responded to strikes or trade unionism? Why do you think commies were his main ideological enemies? The point is even better demonstrated by Mussolini.it still makes no sense... Hitler was slightly right of center on economic policy... the oppressive and violent aspects of his regime have little to do with his domestic economic policy.
Free-trade isn't a complete economic ideology. I'm for free-trade and on the far-left (being an anarcho-syndicalist).So where does a free tradist rate in comparision to say a corporatist? More right or more left?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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