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  • Originally posted by Drogue
    UR: What would you consider to be that is going further than oral sex, but not as far as penetrative sex?
    I don't think that's possible.

    Originally posted by Drogue
    If they were to use dildos or vibrators, that would not be losing their virginity.
    It's the experience, so for all intents and purposes, making use of any, uh, tools that are intended to replace the penis is the same as using the real thing. I cannot see any bona fide differences here.

    Originally posted by Drogue
    Indeed, is it possible to lose your virginity while you're partner remains a virgin?
    Sure... you can be unfaithful, for one thing

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    • making use of any, uh, tools that are intended to replace the penis is the same as using the real thing


      I must disagree. Women who masturbate with toys have not lost their virginity. They must have sex with another person, in my book.
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      • Originally posted by Urban Ranger
        It's the experience, so for all intents and purposes, making use of any, uh, tools that are intended to replace the penis is the same as using the real thing. I cannot see any bona fide differences here.


        I can think of a few


        Indeed, is it possible to lose your virginity while you're partner remains a virgin?


        Sure... you can be unfaithful, for one thing


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        • Originally posted by Whoha
          still no link?
          I found her official website (the best bid last I checked is up to 1,000 pounds and change, believe it or not), but I don't want to post a link because the site has a pic that could be considered pornographic and I don't wanna be Ming's ho for two weeks. I'm pretty sure it's harmless-it's just a shot from the back, you can barely see her nipple if that-but still, not worth the risk IMO.
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          • Originally posted by Urban Ranger
            I don't think that's possible.
            But if oral sex does not lose your virginity, and penetrative sex does, for there to be a way of losing your virginity other than penetrative sex, there would need to be something between the two?

            Originally posted by Urban Ranger
            It's the experience, so for all intents and purposes, making use of any, uh, tools that are intended to replace the penis is the same as using the real thing. I cannot see any bona fide differences here.
            So a man using a dildo on a women means she loses her virginity? Does it mean he does?

            Originally posted by Urban Ranger
            Sure... you can be unfaithful, for one thing
            What I meant is, if a women performs various things on another women, that you would classify as enough to lose her virginity, would they both lose their virginity, or would only the one receiving?

            Basically, I'm trying to ask what actions you would class as enough to count as losing your virginity? Personally, I think only penetrative sex would count, since in a heterosexual relationship that does not include penetrative sex, they could both still be virgins, and I think the action is what removes your virginity, the emotion.

            Originally posted by Urban Ranger
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            • Originally posted by Verres
              well dont say i didnt offer
              I won't

              Originally posted by Whoha
              still no link?
              My, someone's interested




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              • Originally posted by Drogue
                But if oral sex does not lose your virginity, and penetrative sex does, for there to be a way of losing your virginity other than penetrative sex, there would need to be something between the two?
                I don't think the two limited themselves to only oral sex.

                Originally posted by Drogue
                So a man using a dildo on a women means she loses her virginity? Does it mean he does?
                The basis (for me at least) to make such a distinction is the experience, not the form. Suppose our baseline of, uh, losing one's virginity is "having sexual intercourse," than anybody who has engaged in sexual intercourse won't be a virgin anymore.

                Originally posted by Drogue
                What I meant is, if a women performs various things on another women, that you would classify as enough to lose her virginity, would they both lose their virginity, or would only the one receiving?
                See above.

                Originally posted by Drogue
                Basically, I'm trying to ask what actions you would class as enough to count as losing your virginity?
                I am trying not to be explicit here
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                • Whew, it took some digging to find this again. Anyway, guys, place your bids NOW! Currently at 5200 pounds-something like seven grand American, I think. Pretty sad. But still, less than 48 hours left before the auction closes!
                  I won't link it for the reasons I stated before, but the official page has some funny, if stupid and militant-lesbian, lines. Google for rosieharmen (all one word).
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                  • I would offer £2...but the ginger factor has knocked that down to 66p...and that's my final offer
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                    • so its not fake.

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                      • If she is going to do a lesbo thing though, I will put my offer back at £2
                        Speaking of Erith:

                        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                        • its not fake

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                          • Well, that definitely is not the link.
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