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  • #16
    Originally posted by TCO


    billyuns and trillllyuns.
    Are those crunchy like Funyuns?
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    • #17
      Will people stop blaming Bush for the deficit? Sure he bears some blame, but not all of it.

      What about Congress? They write the budget, and they are the ones that pass the budget with the huge deficits!

      Both Democrats and Republicans in Congress are to blame for the deficit, because neither side does anything to reduce it! Both Democrats and Republicans in Congress continue to add their pet spending increases while blaming the other for creating the deficit!

      Congress should be ashamed of itself!
      'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
      G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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      • #18
        Originally posted by The diplomat
        Will people stop blaming Bush for the deficit?
        No. No they won't.
        "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
        "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
        "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

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        • #19
          A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20 minutes, at the rate Washington spends it.

          I rather like that one
          eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophias

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          • #20
            Originally posted by The diplomat
            Will people stop blaming Bush for the deficit? Sure he bears some blame, but not all of it.

            What about Congress? They write the budget, and they are the ones that pass the budget with the huge deficits!

            Both Democrats and Republicans in Congress are to blame for the deficit, because neither side does anything to reduce it! Both Democrats and Republicans in Congress continue to add their pet spending increases while blaming the other for creating the deficit!

            Congress should be ashamed of itself!
            Um, the Republicans control both houses do they not?

            It's clear that this irresponsible spending is Bush's way of reducing the size of government, since cutbacks will be inevitable. A pity that he doesn't realize that the government does all sorts of useful, efficiency-promoting things.

            Still, it looks like you'll all learn the hard way.
            Only feebs vote.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Agathon


              Um, the Republicans control both houses do they not?
              yes but not a supermajority. The Dems filibustered judicial nominees that they didn't like, so they obviously do have some legislative power. So, if the Dems are so concerned with the deficit how come they are not doing anything in Congress to try to reduce the deficit?

              After all, when the No Child Left Behind Act was being wirtten, the Dems argued it did not spend enough money! When the free prescription drug plan was being debated, Ol' Kennedy and others argued that it did not spend enough money. They did not seem very concerned about the deficit then!

              The Dems are just as hypocrite on this as the Republicans are, because they whine and moan about the deficit when it is election time, but when the budget is being written, they contribute to the deficit with their social spending increases just as much as Republicans do with their military spending increases!
              'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
              G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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              • #22
                Why you should blame Bush for the deficit is his drive to cut taxes at the same time as he is increasing spending. That's just stupid.
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
                Ultima Ratio Regum

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                  Why you should blame Bush for the deficit is his drive to cut taxes at the same time as he is increasing spending. That's just stupid.
                  Maybe, but the tax cuts did help the economy. They are a big reason he had 8% GDP growth last quarter and unemployment down at 5.7%
                  'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                  G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                  • #24
                    The tax cuts were good. But they should have cut spending too to compensate.
                    'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                    G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                    • #25
                      I have no doubt that tax cuts will help the economy. However, public works spending would have helped it faster and more, because they would have placed more money in the hands of those who spend more of their income.

                      By the way, job creation in the US has been dismal. Unemployment has been dropping because less people are looking for work. Go ask your treasury department.

                      And the tax cuts are going to keep costing money. What sort of stimulus package doesn't take effect for close to a year and then lasts for a decade? Doesn't make any sense when you want relief right now.

                      The point of deficit spending is that when you start hitting good times again you pay down the debt you accumulated in the bad times. The current tax cut certainly doesn't do this.
                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
                      Ultima Ratio Regum

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                      • #26
                        You are still 3 million jobs off where you were on Jan. 20 2001
                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • #27
                          How many of those 3 million people will be voting for Bush?
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • #28
                            How many of those 3 million will vote?
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                            "Capitalism ho!"

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                            • #29
                              A lot of them, if they're pissed off enough.
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • #30
                                If you were living on a welfare cheque when you'd been making top dollar at a dot-com bubble corporation 4 years before, how mad would you be?
                                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                                Killing it is the new killing it
                                Ultima Ratio Regum

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