Rio starts ID checks on US flyers

[KrazyHorse]

No idea where he's from in Quebec. He's a Francophone, though (at least I'm assuming given several characteristic mistakes and modes of expression)

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Oklahoma city?

Thanks for the correction, I get my [State's name] Cities confused.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Berzerker
[blah blah blah... Something that would be relevant if it wasn't all wasted by this:]

I don't care what label dictators use to hide behind, "Emirs", "socialists", they're all dictators. The fact one group of dictators got elected and another inherited their position is meaningless to me.

Thank you for your time. I don't think I am in a position to change your religious beliefs. Please continue to live in your little world

[SpencerH]

The funny part about reading these types of threads is wondering whether anyone actually believes the nonsense they're typing.

[DanS]

If you start fingerprinting all Canadians at the border there'll be hell to pay. We'll definitely retaliate in kind, and things will move a lot slower.

That's what they're saying. I think the border with Canada has become a lot less informal already, hasn't it?

[Berzerker]

Well Spiffor, I guess that means your is over. I don't know why you, Sava, and O Boris have such trouble answering questions, but I suspect it has to do with the qualitative and not the quantitative nature of your assertions.

[Spiffor]

What questions did you ask me again?

[Alex]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


Retaliation is fine. It's not like they're locking up US citizens, just harassing them to the same extent that Brazilian citizens are harassed when they enter the US.

It's a way of sending a message of displeasure with US government policy both to Washington and to US citizens.

I agree.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Pure stupidity on the part of the Brazilians, under the likely assumptions they are not facing either security concerns at the border or economic immigration problems like the USA (and how many of you idiots think, like the brain dead press does, that these controls have more to do with security than other immigration problems?).
Brazil has niether a problems with Jihaders or with millions of foreign poverty cases and other economic immigrants trying to get it under false pretenses. Thus increased controls offers them no benefits, but only costs. Hence cut offf their nose to spite their face, but their face doesn't even give a damn.

[Berzerker]

Spiffor, how about answering the one question relevant to your assertion?

Has Kuwait slaughtered millions of people?

If ~equating Kuwait with France is "as stupid" as ~equating Nazi Germany with the USA, then Kuwait must be guilty of some really horrendous crimes. So what are they? I asked that and you either missed or ignored it... If anything, Kuwait is the least violent of all 4 countries...

[Spiffor]

Has Kuwait slaughtered millions of people?

No.

Happy now? The question was so obvious I didn't remember you asked it. You thought it was difficult for me to admit Kuwait hadn't genocided?

If you want to go further, I can even tell you that postwar France has commited infinitely more crimes than Kuwait in its whole history, because France was and remains an evil manipulative plundering postcolonist in Africa.

That doesn't make your comparison between Kuwait and social-democratic countries any less stupid. But your premise that democratic institutions mean nothing to you just makes it impossible for you to open your eyes.

[Berzerker]

Lefty -

Pure stupidity on the part of the Brazilians, under the likely assumptions they are not facing either security concerns at the border or economic immigration problems like the USA (and how many of you idiots think, like the brain dead press does, that these controls have more to do with security than other immigration problems?).

That was quite a "sentence" there, Lefty.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
No idea where he's from in Quebec. He's a Francophone, though (at least I'm assuming given several characteristic mistakes and modes of expression)

Don't look further than Belgium.... errrr no.

Montreal, really.

[Fake Boris]

Berzerker, honestly, if you are going to argue about the fact that any social-democrat/socialist state is necessarily criminal, then we're wasting our time. The topic may be interesting on a philosophical standpoint, but we'll assume, when talking politics, that democratically elected governments who created welfare states are just fine- as long as the process was democratic. You've already found your truth in Nozick/Bastiat/Rand and that's fine with me, but don't push me around saying that murdering social-democrats is about saving the world from the dangers of wealth redistribution, and that the US was altruistic in doing that.

Now, I'm sure you probably know that the Corporations have been using brute force to prevent laws for better working conditions, or even to prevent worker unions. If you really think that strikers are only killed when they attack scabs or when they are on the company's property, then you are a one-of-a-kind ignorant dumbass. Most countries in South America, Africa and some parts of Asia offer their police to the Western corporations to massacre workers. In some cases, the repression is only 'legal'. Think of China, who has forced some 'unions' to elect the CEO for president! Now, I see you coming: "China is SOCIALIST you moron!. Know that things are this way in so-called capitalist countries (which are in fact corporocracies), and that drilling and mining companies have been known to 'use' the despots they keep in power to secure their situation.
These crimes do count in America's curriculum. And as for the presidents... problem with them, is that they stay in place only for a few years, which makes it hard for them to reach the hot spots in the century's worst criminals. At least, be proud in knowing that Kissinger made it.

Spiffor:
Stupid yourself. I pinpointed that the similarities between Nazis and America are intriguing at best, but there are some. Do you really think those voting for Le Pen 'love' the Muslim men? There are many such *******s in retarded America. There are plenty of good arguments showing that America is tending towards despotism too. I know it's hard for Europeans to compare someone with Nazi Germany, because they oftentimes feel like they were Satan himself. But they were not any worse than many throughout history. Alexander the Great brutally enslaved and massacred populations, so did the Mongols, so did the Crusaders, so did the communists. This historical trend has not disappeared in the 20th century and it could well show up someday in America's not-so-bright path.

[Berzerker]

Spiffor -

You thought it was difficult for me to admit Kuwait hadn't genocided?

Yes, because my question exposes the flaw with your insult and I'm quite used to Sava and OBoris avoiding questions that poke holes in their arguments. If it's so obvious, why do you insist on arguing that Kuwait is to France as Nazi Germany is to the USA? You said it was stupid to argue there is a "very small difference" between the USA and Nazi Germany (Sava's claim) but added it was "as stupid" for me to argue that there is a very small difference between Kuwait and France. That means you must think Kuwait has committed horrendous crimes, even crimes comparable to the Nazis... But you don't believe that, therefore your insult lacks substance which is probably why all you can do is keep repeating it without offering proof.

If you want to go further, I can even tell you that postwar France has commited infinitely more crimes than Kuwait in its whole history, because France was and remains an evil manipulative plundering postcolonist in Africa.

I can accept that, so why did you argue Kuwait was worse than France - so much worse as to make any comparison "as stupid" as comparing Nazi Germany with the USA?

That doesn't make your comparison between Kuwait and social-democratic countries any less stupid.

You mean a social-democratic country that has committed more evil than Kuwait is still better than Kuwait? I wasn't comparing "social-democratic" systems with monarchies, I was comparing Kuwait to France wrt what each country has done to people - the same criterion Sava and I were using for our USA-Nazi Germany discussion.

But your premise that democratic institutions mean nothing to you just makes it impossible for you to open your eyes.

That's correct, I'm no fan of monarchies or (socialist)democracies. Both have dictators, they only differ in the number of people trying to play king for a day. But my view of these ideologies is irrelevant to the comparison I was making...