A Few Questions About The Iraq War

[DaShi]

I just want to get everyone's general opinion on this.
Do you think President Bush started military action too soon?
Did you feel that you had said everything you wanted to say about the pre-war issues at that time? Or were you bored of it by then and waiting for something new to occur?
Knowing that the war would be inevitable, would you prefer that it had occurred sooner or later?


Thanks.

[Donegeal]

Assuming that it was inevitable, and throwing all political justifications (or lack there of) aside, I think that it happened excatly when it did.

[A_Turkish_Guy]

war is over. it is the important thing for all of us.no need any discussions.

[Zevico]

war is over. it is the important thing for all of us.no need any discussions.

Succintly put.

[RGBVideo]

Do you think President Bush started military action too soon?

Negative.

Did you feel that you had said everything you wanted to say about the pre-war issues at that time?

Negative.

Or were you bored of it by then and waiting for something new to occur?

Positive.

Knowing that the war would be inevitable, would you prefer that it had occurred sooner or later?

Sooner.

[Spiffor]

Re: A Few Questions About The Iraq War

Originally posted by DaShi
I just want to get everyone's general opinion on this.
Do you think President Bush started military action too soon?

Yes, waaaay too soon. No other means have been explored, and the whole UN charade was the US trying to get the rest of the world on its side in a war that was planned to happen regardless.

Did you feel that you had said everything you wanted to say about the pre-war issues at that time?

I think so. But that's because I was pretty prolific at that time

Or were you bored of it by then and waiting for something new to occur?

No. Every second of non-war still bore the hope that war would be averted in the end. Besides, there is something fun in arguing always about the same things with the same arguments

Knowing that the war would be inevitable, would you prefer that it had occurred sooner or later?

If I had known the war was inevitable, I would have preferred it to happen sooner, before the UN charade. So that at least, the UN wouldn't be tainted in this debacle.

[Roberto333]

Maybe Bush should have waited for another 12 U.N. resolutions (read 10 years).

[Theben]

Wow. Two DL dances in one thread.

I wasn't here at the time of pre-war buildup, but it was plain to me that Bush meant to go ahead with the invasion. I was undecided for awhile, then came to the conclusion Saddam has always been a thug and shouldv'e been gone over 20 years ago. But I also hoped that Bush & co. wouldn't **** up their diplomacy so badly that they alienated the rest of the world, which except Britain they managed to do. It's a pretty incredible example of ineptitude, I must say.

[RGBVideo]

[Bush & co.] alienated the rest of the world, which except Britain they managed to do

You really don't know much about the world outside US, do you?

[PLATO]

Amazing that France had enough diplomatic power to create an image that the world was against the invasion. Sure there were people from every country on both sides of the issue, but the only countries in Europe that were officially opposed to the war were France, Germany, Russia, Belgium and Greece. It is even more amazing that France has been able to create the image that we screwed up diplomatically when it is they who are becoming more diplomatically isolated. Chirac and company have laid one of the biggest diplomatic eggs of th last 50 years.

Do you think President Bush started military action too soon?

Actually it probably should have started sooner. The French debacle at the UN may have been avoided then.

Did you feel that you had said everything you wanted to say about the pre-war issues at that time?

Well I said plenty, but I would be happy to say it all again! (Well, maybe I would modify that WMD argument some )

were you bored of it by then and waiting for something new to occur?

Definately not bored. The world was changing in front of our very eyes.

Knowing that the war would be inevitable, would you prefer that it had occurred sooner or later?

Again, sooner. The French would probably be helping the Iraqi people now if we had been able to save them from embarrising themselves.


Red countries against war. Blue countries supported. White were nuetral.

[RGBVideo]

Good, fast edit

Too bad that the map info seems to be BS, judging by a quick glance.
Could you tell me where did you get your information about the map?

[Theben]

Originally posted by VJ

You really don't know much about the world outside US, do you?

Enough to know that even in those countries that eventually supported Bush (some of them were swayed by an increase in foreign aid, great set of principles guys), a significant number of their people were set against it. In some cases, the majority of the population.

[yaroslav]

One thing is the govt and other thing is the population. There can be issues where the population's feelings are different from goverement's feeling. In all the UE the majority of population was against the war - In Spain only 10% (or even less, I don't recall the exact figure) was pro-war.

[RGBVideo]

Enough to know that even in those countries that eventually supported Bush (some of them were swayed by an increase in foreign aid, great set of principles guys), a significant number of their people were set against it. In some cases, the majority of the population.

Yeah, in some cases. Unfortunately, GB was one of those 'cases', while some nations, such as Australia and Denmark had majority of both of their politicians and citizen's supporting the war, so your post doesn't contain any logic at all.

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One thing is the govt and other thing is the population. There can be issues where the population's feelings are different from goverement's feeling. In all the UE the majority of population was against the war - In Spain only 10% (or even less, I don't recall the exact figure) was pro-war.

Yeah, I remember seeing a debate in the parliament from TV upon being in a holiday at Spain. Altough I didn't understand a word of the language, it was clear as water that Aznar was in bad trouble there.

[Theben]

You're missing the point. The case to go to war could've been made easily, but the way Bush presented himself BEFORE any major diplomatic efforts had been put forth turned a significant % of opinion against the war. What should have been an easy marshalling of U.N./public support instead turned into the mess we have today.