Most/Least Favorite Philosopher and Why?

[Sikander]

Originally posted by bfg9000


Derrida's deconstruction of Heidegger and Hegel has made me look at those philosophers ideas in a different light. So there is some value to linguistics.

What Derrida seeks to undermine in common with other postmodernists is the metaphysical certainty not only that the unique 'I' behind any utterance guarantees a consistent, totally conscious, and rational point of view, or that a unified meaning might be traced back to an originary intention, but also that graphic modes of representation, be they in words or images, directly refer to a pre-existent reality.

And that isn't enough to hate them for? I almost hate you for writing that run on sentence of explanation.

[BeBMan]

Can we use "Postmodernist!" as an insult?

[Sikander]

Originally posted by BeBro
Can we use "Postmodernist!" as an insult?

Is there another usage?

[Berzerker]

Agathon -

Yes, that just shows us the fasco-capitalist mentality doesn't it?

Open your markets or we'll make you!!!

Geez, Bastiat wasn't advocating military invasions if free trade is dis-allowed, he was explaining that trade wars are not conducive to peace but can lead to militaristic wars.

[Brundlefly]

Originally posted by Sikander


And that isn't enough to hate them for? I almost hate you for writing that run on sentence of explanation.

Sure, Derrida is annoying, but name one iconoclast in history that didn't get a few people pissed off.

Language can give away either an underlying belief system that remains unconscious to the writer's intention (not unlike the Freudian slip), or expose an unrecognized rupture in a text's logic; which is why linguistic ambiguity, once exposed, does not merely highlight that meaning cannot be determined, but can uncover a whole nest of contradictions in the reasoning of those who profess themselves to rely on such concepts as reason and unitary demeaning for the coherency of their argument.

The most annoying thing about Derrida's deconstruction is when you realize that his deconstructive readings can themselves be deconstructed. Derrida doesn't deny this.

[Brundlefly]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


I see.

So all it would take for me to value her opinions would be to suffer a massive stroke?

Nah. Just be somebody with a propensity to think rationalistically, to suppress or distrust emotions, and to render moralistic judgments in terms of absolutes, without acknowledging ambiguities.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Ah. I'd need to become autistic. Thanks for explaining.

[OzzyKP]

Favorites: Jesus (of course), probably John Locke, John Taylor Gatto (though no pure philosophical books yet written, from what i've read in his books on schooling i think I agree with him more than any other philosopher, I'd love to see a general book written by him. Very interesting blend of conservative and liberal thought. Very individualistic, but not selfish and greedy like Rand. Seems to oppose big corporations and big government. Also some Christian morality in there too.)

Least Fav - Deffinately Neitzche. That bastard can rot in hell. He gave us Hitler. All about the "will to power" do whatever you can to grab as much power as possible. Sick philosophy.

[Buck Birdseed]

Oooh, you've insulted neitsche. Cue GePap in 5...4...3...2...1...

[Harry Tuttle]

Originally posted by OzzyKP

Least Fav - Deffinately Neitzche. That bastard can rot in hell. He gave us Hitler. All about the "will to power" do whatever you can to grab as much power as possible. Sick philosophy.

Yeah, Neitzche is on my least fav list. He really was a morose guy. Plus he went nuts not to soon after he finished his last work. Not the kind of sound mind that would be one to model a personal philosophy after.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yeah, Neitzche is on my least fav list. He really was a morose guy. Plus he went nuts not to soon after he finished his last work. Not the kind of sound mind that would be one to model a personal philosophy after.

You know Kant went nuts too .

And to say Nietzche 'gave us' Hitler is to be very ignorant of Nietzchian philosophy. I'm sure he would have hated Nazi Germany.

[Sava]

faves: not many that I like... John Locke... I like Thomas Jefferson's philosophy on what government should be. And Teddy Roosevelts' view on what America should be (superpower, business kept in line)... however those two weren't "philosophers" so to speak. Socrates' views on wisdom are good.

least faves:
Nietzche (the guy was a nutbag... used to talk to his horse)

Freud (a friggin coke fiend)

Thomas Aqoinous(sp?) -- the most ignorant and uninformed rantings about why God must exist... I literally couldn't stop laughing when I was reading his stuff.

Karl Marx -- that's right commies, your savior is a dope... while his recognition and hatred of the rich and powerful is shared by me, he inanely believes that human beings are inherently good. Sorry, if people were good, they wouldn't be so evil and heartless in positions of power.

Just a side note: I don't like when people say "Jesus" is their favorite philosopher. First, he wasn't necessarily a philosopher. Second, he was the epitome of modesty that he didn't want to be worshipped like HE was god... I like Jesus, it's his dope followers that scare me.

[GePap]

Do you need to ask?

Nietzsche did not "give us Hitler" A five second read of his work wuld show what his support of German nationalism was like. Do try to read his works, and not just the crap out there.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Freud (a friggin coke fiend)

Freud isn't technically a philosopher... though I guess that depends on what you think of psychology .

[Sava]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Freud isn't technically a philosopher... though I guess that depends on what you think of psychology .

yeah... but he's close enough... and I consider his "pioneering" in psychology to be akin to philosophy. Plus, a lot of his views are considered to be philosophical.