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  • Originally posted by Verto
    Just for TCO:

    Flat deck! for boomer fags.

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    • Originally posted by Serb

      2 automatic 130mm. Don't remeber rate of fire. But Kirov it's a heavy nuclear missile cruiser. Its main armament is cruise missiles.
      How 60s...

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      • Originally posted by Patroklos
        Is that why they still used Bear's to fing the Atlantic convoys? Russian satelites were not advanced enough to transmit target data like that, and ours have only been able to for about 10 years.

        Sunburns are cool but unpractical.
        Unpractical my ass. It's the best anti-ship missile in the world.
        It takes an entire destroyer sized ship to carry one and has no range, burns all its fuel trying to go so fast. So basically the ship carrying it would be dead long before the weapon became useful. However, if hidden along coast lines good bye whoever is on the recieving end.
        Really? One missile weight about 4 tonns. Destroyer of "Sovremenny" class have 2x4 Sunburn launchers. Range 120 km.
        If carried by an aircraft (Su-27, Su-33, Su-32FN) range is 250 km.
        The official countermeasure listed for this is "No countermeasure" just too fast. Supposed to be a carrier buster, though would be interesting to see it hit a destroyer. As far as I know only China has these deployed as sea going assets.
        We never sold them to anyone else. They are too good.
        Last edited by Serb; January 11, 2004, 01:31.

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        • Originally posted by TCO


          How 60s...
          What?

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          • Originally posted by TCO


            Flat deck! for boomer fags.
            Have a little respect! It was the only picture I could find that wasn't the generic, sub surfacing picture.

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            • You seem to have a problem with multiplying your ranges by 5-6 times.

              "48 nm (90 km)
              65 nm (120 km) in 3M80E
              some sources claim 250 km"



              Well, the official sources claim the first. And I was wrong about the platforms carrying it.
              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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              • 19 pages! No way I'm gonna read them all, but a thought occured to me.

                Hawker Harrier

                Its not the most lethal aircraft in the world but it's the only successful VTOL ever built . The Soviets built one that was crap and even the americans havent built one.
                We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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                • Originally posted by Serb
                  Another "bye-bye uncle Sam's boat" babe.

                  SS-N-22 "SunBurn"
                  Speaking as a guy who works with Electronic Warfare Techs.....

                  I'll agree it's a deadly missile the EWs (Anti-missile types) call it the "Oh-sh*t" missile.

                  Although it can be stopped.
                  Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                  • Originally posted by Serb

                    Bulk of their army was destroyed by Soviets. You were even unable to dealt with Japanese by themselves.

                    Only when we were already on the Home Islands Doorsteps, while you guys fought some lazy garrision troops in Manchuria (while British stomped the tough guys in Burma, marines stomped them across the Pacific

                    LEND-LEASE=5% in Soviet war material. When the hell you will understand this?
                    No less a person such as Kruschev said that "SPAM" saved the army units he was with, a true sign of the effect of lend-lease if any.
                    What might? The "might" you had in 1945 in Europe would be easily destroyed by Soviets.
                    Like Hell. We were all the way on War footing. The Combined Industrial might of the Western Allies dwarfed the Soviets. It's apperently in the two fighting ideologies.

                    Soviet Soldier(shelled by artillary): "Quick! We have tomove forward or back until we stop getting shelled"

                    American: "F--k this, Kawaski? call in an airstrike ( P-51 zooms in and destroys battery)
                    HTF are those people? Did they ever tested on their skin what the hell is -45C?
                    For a minnesotoan....cold is life. Polar Bear club is life. MInnesota is 9 months winter and 3 months poor sledding weather. All ph34r MInnesota!
                    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                    • What might? The "might" you had in 1945 in Europe would be easily destroyed by Soviets.
                      Yes, the world grew to fear the pistol accuracy of the Russian officer, who never missed a retreating Russian soldier!

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                      • How'd this get past 500 posts?

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                          • ayup.
                            Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                            • Originally posted by skywalker
                              How'd this get past 500 posts?
                              Lets start making plans now to continue elsewhere.
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                              "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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                              • The most bad ass piece of military hardware:


                                Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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