Is this for real?

[Az]

You see no facial expressions whatsoever, actually, 'cause you can't see his face.

[Tripledoc]

The subtext on the screen speaks of a former Enron employee having made a rap record blasting Enron.

Anyone know about this?

Edit: the newstext is for real.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
The narrator also sounds like she's an imitator.

The narrator is Candy Crowley, CNN correspondet to the US Senate. It sounds like her an awful lot.

[Ted Striker]

How do you know it's her?

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
How do you know it's her?

I can't be a hundred percent sure. I just think it sounds like her an awful lot. I remember her, because she is not the usual smiling bimbo, but a rather heavyset somewhat cynical person.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Eli
If it was real we would've heard about it. A lot. Everywhere.

Eli got it in one.

This caught my eye however: # You cannot win a partisan/guerilla war.

I have to ask why not? It's been done before even by us at times.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Eli got it in one.

This caught my eye however: # You cannot win a partisan/guerilla war.

I have to ask why not? It's been done before even by us at times.

I can't think of any example out of my mind. But perhaps I'm just too tired?

[mrmitchell]

3) A third clip of of a guy standing there holding a gun, who is acting VERY quiet and professional (notice no cheering or happy facial expressions)

I don't know about you, but I sure as hell can't see through someone's head. Would you care to point out where their FACE is shown? All I see is the back of their head.

Regardless of WHERE the clip of the guy talking comes from, you just DON'T SAY "these guys are dead now" THAT ****ING CLOSE to "let's do it again, that was awesome". I don't care what and who the hell you're talking about, that's just a sick demented threat to humanity.

The cut between the two clips (writhing and the actual shooting) makes me wonder a little about the authenticity, but the story seems legit to me. Do we have any video experts?

(Why would CNN even air a tape of Iraqis dieing and Marines cheering? Are we already advancing to the level of ubernationalism that CNN feels it safe to do that?)

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by mrmitchell

I don't know about you, but I sure as hell can't see through someone's head. Would you care to point out where their FACE is shown? All I see is the back of their head.

Look again, you can see the entire side of his face including his cheeks and his lips.

Regardless of WHERE the clip of the guy talking comes from, you just DON'T SAY "these guys are dead now" THAT ****ING CLOSE to "let's do it again, that was awesome". I don't care what and who the hell you're talking about, that's just a sick demented threat to humanity.

----> EDITING

Look at the clip of the guy at the end again. He doesn't say the two lines you are talking about in one breath.

1) He says the first thing about the guys being dead
2) CUT
3) Then there is a second clip of him saying "hell yeah that was awesome, let's do it again." We have absolutley no idea what he said in between those two lines. Hell, he might have even said the second line before the first one. But with some trick editing you can make it look like one continuous line. Unless you're watching all the trick edits.

Finally we have absolutley NO IDEA who that guy is or what he's talking about. We don't even know if he's a soldier or not!

(Why would CNN even air a tape of Iraqis dieing and Marines cheering? Are we already advancing to the level of ubernationalism that CNN feels it safe to do that?)

Maybe cause CNN never aired it.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
That "cheering" part is the biggest giveaway.

I hear about 3 guys cheering.

Then the shot pans over and I see 1 guy who is on his gun and doesn't look like he's cheering to me.

Yes, but why would the camera neccesarily include the people cheering. An audio recorder records everything in 360 degrees within a certain distance. A camera has a limited field of vision.

All you have established is that (perhaps) the soldier in the shot did not participate in the cheering.

If you look at the angle from which the firing shots came, you will also notice that they did not come from the position of the camera.

Is it not normal combat procedure that when faced with an enemy, the soldiers should spread out in a firing line, and not neccesarily stay lumped together where the camera crew is?

[Ted Striker]

Exactly my point.

If the camera doesn't show all of the soldiers that are claimed as killing the alleged person in question, how do we know what really happened?

Just goes to show how flawed this tape is.



And hey, didn't you just "establish" the narrator based on someone that you "think" it is?