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  • #76
    Originally posted by Enigma_Nova

    I believe that decisions should be entrusted only to those who desire to make them.
    Translation: The smart ones. Though I do agree with you.

    Or would that just -increase- the value of thoughtless idiot votes?
    It would.
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    • #77
      Ninjas make EVERYTHING awesome.
      "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
      "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world

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      • #78
        But really, if you're too lazy to vote, I don't think your opinion deserves to be counted. The same could be said for those that have to be given extra motivation to vote. Having a say in things should be motivation enough.

        obviously, rah, you don't like orgasms too much, otherwise you'd think that was a good motivation/perk.
        B♭3

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        • #79
          1) Let there be a stake in elections. When the government (whether local / state / federal government) will have more power than unelected bureaucracies / lobbies / corporations, people will vote because they'll know it's important.

          2) Have differentiated parties. Save some disagreements on abortion and other societal issues, there is no structurated cleavage in American politics. As a result, people often vote for the party they have always felt attached with (for no real reason).

          3) Have a more responsive electoral system. One of the reasons for low turnout is the distrust in the political system as a whole, especially for the two parties that are sure to win. If the people who vote for something radically different had a chance to weigh, they'll vote much more often.
          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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          • #80
            Originally posted by rah
            But really, if you're too lazy to vote, I don't think your opinion deserves to be counted. The same could be said for those that have to be given extra motivation to vote. Having a say in things should be motivation enough.
            When your say is wasted (i.e. when you support a "small party"), I think the fault lies to the system rather than to the voter.
            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              Second, provide a coupon to each voter, which provides a tax credit when included in the next year's tax return.


              Like we needed another reason for people to attempt to vote more than once .
              Nah. If anything, having more coupons than taxpayers in a given tax return will produce more questions than it's worth.
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Spiffor
                1) Let there be a stake in elections. When the government (whether local / state / federal government) will have more power than unelected bureaucracies / lobbies / corporations, people will vote because they'll know it's important.

                2) Have differentiated parties. Save some disagreements on abortion and other societal issues, there is no structurated cleavage in American politics. As a result, people often vote for the party they have always felt attached with (for no real reason).

                3) Have a more responsive electoral system. One of the reasons for low turnout is the distrust in the political system as a whole, especially for the two parties that are sure to win. If the people who vote for something radically different had a chance to weigh, they'll vote much more often.
                1) This seem like a European problem, not American.
                2) In many ways this is true. Bush has gone out this way to steal Democrat issues like steel tariffs, farm subsidies and Medicare prescription drug coverage. The only major issues that divide the parties today are taxes and war.
                3) The low turnout has nothing to do with distrust, it has to do with satisfaction and complacency.
                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                • #83
                  The low turnout has nothing to do with distrust, it has to do with satisfaction and complacency.


                  Jeez Ned, is there not enough wool pulled over your eyes?
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #84
                    Standardise the voting system across the whole country. No matter where you are in the country, everyone should vote in the same way. Preferably without daft gizmos.

                    Replace the electoral college with something else. Something more democratic. I don't care if you're 'really a republic'.

                    Get a zero-tolerance policy going towards gerrymandering and other types of corruption.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Stefu
                      Yeah. It should be made harder to vote. Reinstate the literacy requirement and the poll tax, require all the votes to be cast between 02:00 and 03:00, have one voting location for every 5 million citizens and have those locations staffed by ninjas who attempt to cut up everybody who tries to cast his vote. That, by God, would truly separate the wheat from the chaff and the committed voters from the non-committed ones.



                      Were those refreshments served before or after the voting?
                      during, vote early, vote often.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Ned
                        3) The low turnout has nothing to do with distrust, it has to do with satisfaction and complacency.
                        Wow
                        You and I have a tradition of disagreement, and I often wonder where you get your perception of reality from. But this one is the most surprising statement I've ever read from you
                        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                        • #87
                          If you entice people to vote without them being informed, you will have a screwed up government. Low turnout is not good, but I rather have a low turnout with mostly informed people than high turnout with uninformed people.
                          "Dave, if medicine tasted good, I'd be pouring cough syrup on my pancakes." -Jimmy James, Newsradio

                          "Your plans to find love, fortune, and happiness utterly ignore the Second Law Of Thermodynamics."-Horiscope from The Onion

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                          • #88
                            Spiffor and Imran, my observation about low voter turnout is from experience and from polls conducted over the years.
                            http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Ned
                              Spiffor and Imran, my observation about low voter turnout is from experience and from polls conducted over the years.
                              That's strange, my courses of participatory science do give a high importance to party distrust, but none to complacency with the system. Maybe that's because none of the many scientosts striving for the reason of low turnout cared to measure it
                              Besides, most non-voters I got to talk to during campaigns were rather talking about how they wouldn't give their vote to corrupt politicians, rather than how the system was so perfect they didn't want to have a say in it...
                              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                              "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                              "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                              • #90
                                But if you can provide me these numerous polls over the years, I'll shut up.
                                "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                                "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                                "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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