Top Ten Outrages of the Past Half Millenium

[Al B. Sure!]

Strangelove:

though Victorian England possessed the facade of immense liberties, great material and social progress, etc. it still was brutal. especially to those upon whose backs the pink empire was built.

[Inverse Icarus]

why's everyone putting down the holocaust? i think we should go with events that actually happened, no?

[Imran Siddiqui]

The weather there is ****e.

Well if sunny and warm is ****e to you, then I guess it is .

[Verto]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


It is claimed that some 20 million Africans were abducted by slavers over a period of three centuries. Somewhere between one-third and one-half died in transit. Not only that, but there were certain colonies that were literally graveyards for slaves. Haiti for instance required the importation of 50,000 slaves/year just to keep the population stable. OTOH the life expectancy of slaves in the US was overall pretty good. Probably no more than 300,000 to 500,000 slaves were brought to the US, yet by 1860 there were 3.5 million blacks living in the US.

Needless to say the share of the total number of slaves brought across the Atlantic destined for the US was very small, perhaps accounting for less than 5% of the total. But when you look at the total human cost of the slave trade, adding the number of lives chewed up by lethal working conditions to the number lost in transit, then he number of lives lost to the transatlantic slave trade approximates the number lost in the holocaust, and may even surpass it.

But how much of this went on during the period that the Confederate States existed? The slave trade had already ended by the 1860s. These atrocities were carried out by the European powers colonized the Americas, and later by young United States.

The blood of millions of slaves is not on the hands of the Confederacy.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Uber KruX
why's everyone putting down the holocaust? i think we should go with events that actually happened, no?

not funny

[Dr Strangelove]

Have you noticed how well we're all getting along in this thread? Isn't it inspirational? Maybe we've discovered something today, something useful. I don't know, maybe something that could lead to, dare I say it, world peace?

We should institute a worldwide "Humanity Suffering Day", a day in which every person in the world would stop and think about human suffering around the world and how he or she personally, or through his or her ancestors, furthered human suffering. What do you think guys?

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Verto


But how much of this went on during the period that the Confederate States existed? The slave trade had already ended by the 1860s. These atrocities were carried out by the European powers colonized the Americas, and later by young United States.

The blood of millions of slaves is not on the hands of the Confederacy.

Yes, I think I mentioned that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

not funny

Ah, come on... lighten up. It was OBVIOUSLY in jest and making fun of Holocaust deniers.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Have you noticed how well we're all getting along in this thread?

'Cause all the kids have gone to bed .

[Verto]

Originally posted by Albert Speer


blah?! the population was allowed to leave and Sherman's men set fire to the arsenal, factories, etc. the fire obviously was hard to control and some houses were burnt down.

and anyway, Sherman's total war strategy proved sucessful and thus, the US is one today and the slaves were freed.

Our strategy with the Native Americans was successful and now we have space for suburbia - does the end justify the mean?

Sherman was a lunatic, and acknowledged as such by both sides.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

not funny

Ah, come on... lighten up. It was OBVIOUSLY in jest and making fun of Holocaust deniers.

Frankly, I never know what to think when UberKruX posts.

[Verto]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


Yes, I think I mentioned that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Sherman was a lunatic, and acknowledged as such by both sides.

May have been. But a DAMNED good general.

does the end justify the mean?

Dunno. Where do you live in the US?

In this case, while it was horrible, I think the ends did justify the means (now I'm SOOOO gonna be flamed... so I'll start running now ).

[Drake Tungsten]

not funny

I laughed...

[Verto]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Sherman was a lunatic, and acknowledged as such by both sides.

May have been. But a DAMNED good general.[/q]

Patton was a good general; brilliant enough to make up for his peculiarities. Sherman was just nuts.

does the end justify the mean?

Dunno. Where do you live in the US?

In this case, while it was horrible, I think the ends did justify the means (now I'm SOOOO gonna be flamed... so I'll start running now ).

So, because the outcome was favorable/desirable in your opinion, the methods used to accomplish that outcome doesn't matter?