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**Kuciwalker** · December 21, 2003, 02:37

**Gatekeeper** · December 21, 2003, 05:28

Originally posted by MrFun
I was just bullsh*tting with you.

I'm one of those types that need graphical clues, 'cause I'm still mastering the ability to discern between "bull****ting" and seriousness, especially in topics like this one.

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**Drake Tungsten** · December 21, 2003, 05:50

Because the issue that you're dismissing with "So what?" has been responsible for the rise of ultra-reactionary religious and xenophobic movements in the Middle East, you ****ing moron

No, it hasn't.

**Gatekeeper** · December 21, 2003, 05:54

Hmm. Oops. I thought "bullsh*tting" was automatically censored.

**Drake Tungsten** · December 21, 2003, 05:56

The censor is weird like that. **** is censored, but ****ty isn't. I don't even know if bull**** or bull****ting are censored...

**Gatekeeper** · December 21, 2003, 05:59

Nope, they're not. I'm going to bed now, so as to provoke a mod into interceding 'cause of unintentional cussing on our part.

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**Drake Tungsten** · December 21, 2003, 06:03

Well, if they haven't censored it, then it isn't really a cuss word, is it?

**orange** · December 21, 2003, 06:44

Drake, dear, do a comprehensive study on the role of Colonialism and Imperialism in Asia and Africa, and then get back to me - mmkay?

The concept of Cultural and Religious Nationalism in these countries should not be cast aside as a baseless phenomenon that we can 'liberate' them of.

Employing that kind of thinking will only serve to make this type of ideology more fierce.

**Drake Tungsten** · December 21, 2003, 06:50

Drake, dear, do a comprehensive study on the role of Colonialism and Imperialism in Asia and Africa, and then get back to me - mmkay?

Why? I thought we were talking about the Arab world, where ultra-reactionary religious and xenophobic movements are the product of oppressive home-grown regimes, not "humiliation" by the West.

You at least need to be correct before you turn the condecension on...

**orange** · December 21, 2003, 06:53

Why? I thought we were talking about the Arab world

We are. Where do you think it is besides Asia and Africa?

**Drake Tungsten** · December 21, 2003, 06:55

Asia and Africa encompass a hell of a lot more than just the Arab world. Studying the role of colonialism and imperialism in Mozambique or the Phillipines does the equivalent of ****-all for your knowledge of events with the Arab world.

**orange** · December 21, 2003, 07:03

Not really, but regardless I was speaking more specifically of the Arab world. The rest of Africa and Asia will simply supplement what you learn when you read about Algeria and Iran, and in fact, compliment it.

There's a wealth of information out there regarding French humiliation of Algerians and their culture, and how 150 years of that led to the rise of a patriarchal fundamentalist reactionary party which was democratically elected to power.

But hey, so what?

**Drake Tungsten** · December 21, 2003, 07:12

Iran, and in fact, compliment it.

Iran isn't even Arab...

**orange** · December 21, 2003, 07:49

no, but I'd imagine that you would recognize the connection between the Arab world and a state that borders it which is dominated by Islam.

**KrazyHorse** · December 21, 2003, 14:02

Re: Humiliating" the Arabs? And if so... so what?

Originally posted by Oerdin
And on the same day the pride of the Arab world, the great and brave Hussein, was captured by evil imperialist forces, too!

etc.

I resent the implication that "we" leftists didn't want Saddam to take the big fall.

When I heard he'd been captured I practically did a little dance.

So watch the generalizations.

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