The Guardian: Israel planned raid to kill Saddam

[Sirotnikov]

and just how, exactly, does the missle track a particular person?

i remember hearing how the guidance system generally worked, but i don't remember how i got hold of that information, so i'd rather not talk about.

i think it's not very much more complicated than the usual new fire and forget guidance technology.

plus you'd be surprised what a lot of ingenuity and a dedicated team of engineers can do.

[rah]

Some how, an article in the Guardian that says the codename was 'Bramble Bush', sounds like it came from the onion, or SNL.

[Space05us]

you would kill a man at a funeral, and put innocent people at risk just because of relation. you lack the set which men value most.

[Ned]

The problem I have with this is that it reminds me too much of Bill Clinton shooting 75 missiles at Osama bin Laden.

[Ned]

dp

[Pekka]

This is copied from my PWS! Damn it Siro, did you leak this? I'll take it out of your pay man! Concentrate!

[Zevico]

you would kill a man at a funeral, and put innocent people at risk just because of relation. you lack the set which men value most.

Spaceus, you think that the people who planned this were unprincipled. This may be true; yet you may not judge these people unless you were to also judge the actions of every single other government in the world in a similar manner, including yours, which has considered and done (and in the eyes of some, continues to do) things much worse than this plan.
As such, either every country in the world has lost these values you speak of, or this is a case where things do not run as black and white as you imply.
Also, consider the fact that Saddam supported at the time, and did until the downfall of his government, killed thousands-perhaps more than hundreds of thousands-perhaps even in the millions (as some of the interim government council suggest) of people. He did this with the knowledge of no doubt the large majority of the people who had attended this funeral, and no doubt this same large majority had comitted these acts, as Saddam had always preferred his Clan and family during his government and kept some of them in high positions.

[Az]

It takes time to reach the western press, I see. This was on the news in sunday, wasn't it?

anyway, the headline isn't precise. There was a plan to kill him. but it was far from certain to be executed.

you would kill a man at a funeral, and put innocent people at risk just because of relation. you lack the set which men value most.

I guess then you think that the US Army is a bunch of evil morons, right?

[Eli]

Bramble Bush?! Ah... so it's "Siah Eted". I was certain it's "Sheikh Eted". Stupid newspapers.

[Az]

Sheikh Atad....

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Like those bombs Israel uses in the Territories?

I knew someone would bring this up.

But seriously, you can't employ a super exclusive spec-ops team, just to kill a medium (when compared to saddam) target.

But not to be mistaken - Salah Shehadeh was responsible for over a 100 Israeli casualties who died as a result of terracts he directed.

IIRC the assumption was that the building he was in was empty.


It is my personal theory, that a 1 ton bomb charge was used, in order to send a message to Hamas. Saleh Shehadeh was recently responsible for a failed attempt to put a 1 ton bomb under one of Israel's new sky scrapers.


But getting back to facts - Israel later used only 500Kg (iirc) on Sheik Yassin, and failed to kill him. IIRC no one died in that attack. Only several injured.

[Chemical Ollie]

This is old news, not only because it's more than 10 years old. Anyway, shooting live ammo when you are supposed to shoot blanks must automatically qualify for a Darwin award, right???

Not that I would complain about the mission, though.

[Mr. President]

Originally posted by Osweld



and just how, exactly, does the missle track a particular person?

I saw on TV that you can "paint" a person or object with a laser beam and then fire a specially-modified bullet which will go directly to the painted person or object.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Azazel
It takes time to reach the western press, I see. This was on the news in sunday, wasn't it?

anyway, the headline isn't precise. There was a plan to kill him. but it was far from certain to be executed.

They only called it off because they ****ed up and killed 5 of themselves during training, or at least that was the impression given by the story I read a few days ago.

BTW, when was the last time a country assassinated another country's leader (that we have actual evidence of, please)?

[Whoha]

Emissions guidance for human tracking.