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    So it seems that the A-Rod for Manny deal won't go through. After the union ruled that A-Rod couldn't restructure his deal for Boston because he had to be getting a benefit (isn't going from a last place team to a playoff team a benefit?) from restructuring. It doesn't seem like they'll ask for an extension. It would have been a great deal. A-Rod for Manny, and then Nomar for Ordonez. I wonder now how Manny and Nomar will like to go back to work for the Red Sox? And Texas must be shaking their heads. They had a deal to save a lot of cash by dealing A-Rod, but couldn't get it done. That was their best bet. No one else can really eat A-Rod salary (except the Yanks and they aren't biting).

    The Yanks have lost Pettite and Clemens, but restocked with Vazquez and Brown. Whether this is as good as it looks depends on how well Brown holds up. Last year he was lucky, but we all know his recent injury history, and he is 39. I think the Yanks may miss Nick Johnson, who they had to give up for Vazquez. Giambi is a horrible defensive 1B, and now he can't simply play DH. Oh, and Sheffield just signed.

    Of course there are other teams . The Mets seem to have made themselves MUCH better by signing the other Matsui to play SS. One wonders what the status of Reyes is, who was supposed to take over at SS this year. They also sign Mike Cameron, who Tom Glavine will love. You can tell he misses Andrew Jones. While Cameron isn't Jones, he is a Gold Glove CF and a much bigger upgrade than what they had.

    The Braves replaced Sheffield with J.D. Drew. Drew is another player with injury problems. Has there been a year where he has played over 130 games? They also aren't offering a contract to Maddux, and traded their best pitching prospect for Drew, so one wonders how the rotation will play out.

    The most IMPROVED team will be, bar none, the Orioles. They just signed Tejada. They are on the verge of signing I-Rod or Javy Lopez to put behind the plate, and rumors are swirling that they are in the running for Vlad Guerrero. Of course there are also rumors that the Dodgers dumped Brown's salary so they could afford Guerrero. So that'll be interesting to watch.

    Anything you guys want to add?
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

  • #2
    I don't wanna talk about it. I didn't follow the Yanks back in the 80s, and apparently the baseball gods have decided that shall have to be remedied.

    -Arrian
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    • #3
      George III is having a fit after not winning. Its not that Pettitte was some superstar pitcehr that was winning Cy joung awards, but he was part of the heart of a team-which still counts, and more than money why the Yanks won from 96 to 2000. Which is why yankee fans could nto give a damn about Brown, Vazquez and Sheffield.
      If you don't like reality, change it! me
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      • #4
        George III is having a fit after not winning.


        Yeah, it seems dangerously like the beginning of the 80s, when George was getting pissed because they hadn't won the WS since the late 70s and started getting personally involved.

        At least he hasn't tried to get A-Rod and trade Jeter away .
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #5
          Baseball sucks.

          Spec.
          -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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          • #6
            Bah, go away then .
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #7
              NEVER!!.


              Spec.
              -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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              • #8
                I'm glad the cards could unload Nancy Drew. What a waste of...god I don't remember, 15 mil? and for a decent return (at least considering Wainwright's future) no less.

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                • #9
                  Very decent return. Marquis will help right away as well (as a fairly decent 4th or 5th starter).
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #10
                    The Orioles won't be the most improved... they are just making the same mistake they did a few years ago (Albert Belle)... they won't get Vlad, and Tejada will continue to degrade since his MVP season.

                    THe White Sox are making a huge mistake. They are trying to trade Magglio ORdonez for Nomar Garciaparra and Scott Williamson... only to save a few bucks, and despite the fact Reinsdorf said he would spend more money if attendance went up, and it did by about 500k last year. Oh well, sucks to be a White Sox Fan.

                    The Cubs' Jim Hendry should go to jail for stealing Derek Lee from Florida. Plus, despite the Oriole rumors, I hear Pudge is considering coming to the North Side. Either way, the Cubs, right now, are the favorites to win the World Series. Pettite is going to put up mediocre numbers in Houston, and nobody else in their division has done anything.

                    Boston has improved and will give the Yankees a run for their money, but Lowe, Schilling, and Pedro are all a year older... Pedro will probably be great, by I'd be surprised if Schilling does anything more than breaking the automated strike machine system in Boston.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #11
                      the O's have been breaking my heart for over 15 years now. I'll beleive it when I see it.
                      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                      • #12
                        How are the Orioles making another mistake? They have a very good young team, they just added Tejada who will put up good numbers. They'll get either I-Rod or Lopez (btw, the Cubs don't want to spend what I-Rod wants) behind the plate, and if they get Vlad, watch out. They have a good young pitching staff (from the prospects they got from the Giants for Ponson). They'll suprise.

                        Cubs, favorite for the WS? Good team, yes. But that's going a bit too far at this point. The Cubs add Lee, but they need a catcher. They don't seem like they are really going after I-Rod or Lopez (suprisingly). If they get I-Rod, then yeah, pencil them in. But the way they are going now, they aren't gonna get him.

                        The favorite for the WS is either the Yanks or Red Sox. You have a WS team (Yanks) who add Sheffield, and replace Pettite and Clemens with Vazquez and Brown. The Red Sox add Schilling, who'll get you at least 15 wins and add Foulke as the closer.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #13
                          I ****ing hate player unions. They make things so difficult. If both the teams are satisfied and the players are satisfied then what is the ****ing problem?

                          Does the Player's Association really believe he NEEDS the extra 30 Million? He's not being given his just rewards earning only 197 Million?!?!?!

                          ****ing players unions...
                          "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
                          ^ The Poly equivalent of:
                          "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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                          • #14
                            The O's have no pitching Imran... they will be just like the Rangers.

                            BTW, the Cubs were 5 outs from the WS and picked up Derek Lee and LeTroy Hawkins while keeping their stud pitching staff intact. The Yankees got weaker, the BoSox got marginally better, the Marlins got worse, the Braves got worse... tell me, who is more threatening than the Cubs?

                            Yankees? please.... Brown is like 40... you think he's going to put up the number he used to? Not likely. Vazquez probably won't adjust to the DH. Pitchers moving from NL to AL usually don't have big years. And how good was Sheffield in the playoffs for the Braves?

                            Yankees? don't make me laugh...
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #15
                              So far Boston and Chicago have made the biggest moves toward the WS, but we'll have to see how these pitching additions by the Cards help. That was a good move to dump Drew if these pitchers can be effective starters. Breaking news...the deal for A-Rod is dead...

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