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  • Why Nagasaki or Hiroshima?

    I was wondering why the US chose Nagasaki and Hiroshima for their nuclear strike? Why not Tokyo or another target?

    Thanks for the info.

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    They'd already firebombed Tokyo.
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    • #3
      AFAIK, they were big centers of industry.
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      • #4
        I always thought that Nagasaki was the first hit and Hiroshima the second....How much time was there between the 2 hits?

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        • #5
          Hiroshima was first, then Nagasaki 2 days later (I believe).

          Hiroshima had outlying industrial complexes, and IIRC, the IJA was entrenching itself in parts of the civilian areas to avoid the strategic bombing of military targets.
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          • #6
            Hiroshima also was the headquarters of the Japanese 2nd Army.
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            • #7
              the idea was to get Japan to surrender. Tokyo was where the folks who would make that surrender lived. Clearly the idea was to send them message was that Tokyo was next if surrender was not forthcoming.
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              • #8
                IIRC, they didn't want to nuke Tokyo because of the proximity of historically important buildings. That's what a remember hearing somewhere. I don't know how accurate it is.
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                • #9
                  Well, I still say because they were the biggest targets which conventional bombing hadn't affected.

                  The fact that there were large numbers of civilians there just made them all the more tempting.
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                  • #10
                    They wanted completely undamaged cities so that they could see the effect of the bomb.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sava
                      IIRC, they didn't want to nuke Tokyo because of the proximity of historically important buildings. That's what a remember hearing somewhere. I don't know how accurate it is.
                      thats why they didnt bomb kyoto.
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                      • #12
                        The invasion were supposed to have come from the south. So they wanted to see the effect on American soldier when they had to march through the radioactive areas.

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                        • #13
                          Wow....many hypotheses. Which is true?

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                          • #14
                            Wow....many hypotheses. Which is true?
                            Tripledoc's isn't.

                            Ned, Boris, and myself have hit most of the issues:
                            -Major military HQ
                            -Remaining undamaged cities
                            -Industry

                            Of course, Nagasaki was only bombed because the primary target, Kokura, was obscured by cloud cover.
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                            • #15
                              Besides the teo having industry, they wanted to show the destuctive power of the weapons, but not inflict any more damage than nessecary, so they picked two medium sized cities with medium industry. The reaon the chose South Japan was because they really didn't want their new weapon flaying any farthar than it had to. Image if it crashed in enemy territory....

                              Tokyo was left alone, as was said, so somebody would be left to surrender. The last thing we needed to do was kill the Emperor and start a new crusade. However, there were larger and more important cities like Tokyo, and the fact that they chose two smaller ones as targets proves to me that the outright slaughter of civilians was in no way a goal of the US.

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