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  • #46
    Nationalism lets you build riflemen, its in the industrial age tech tree, you get it for free if you chose a scientific nation.

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    • #47
      Good nationalism is the kind that helps you overthrow foreign oppressors. Bad nationalism is the kind that makes you into a foreign oppressor.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #48
        yes it was directed to you. there's a consensus that fascism is bad.

        elaborate if you think otherwise.

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        • #49
          The interesting thing is that there are so many different definitions. I have checked 'nationalism' in Oxford dictionary, two encyclopaedias (in English), two dictionaries in Croatian, and one dictionary web site (in English).

          No two definitions were the same, and some were quite different. Add defintions of 'patriotism' and 'chauvinism' to the mix and confusion is what you get. That is why together with abortion, existance of God and gun control, 'nationalism' is one of those eternal topics and all because everybody has their own definition.

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          • #50
            nationalism is a good thing

            it is what enables us (the people of the nation) deal with those who want to take advantage of us

            like corporations (in modern times) or terrorists or dictators

            I mean, if there was no nationalism (and no nations), there would just be us (The People) getting taken advantage of

            Jon Miller
            Jon Miller-
            I AM.CANADIAN
            GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by chegitz guevara
              Good nationalism is the kind that helps you overthrow foreign oppressors. Bad nationalism is the kind that makes you into a foreign oppressor.
              IMHO, the only difference between the two is the situation the people are in. The sentiments are the same.

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              • #52
                Great avatar skywalker

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Whoha
                  Nationalism lets you build riflemen, its in the industrial age tech tree, you get it for free if you chose a scientific nation.
                  I'm tired of you people stealing my humor!

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                  • #54
                    Nationalism is the false sense that being part of a country actually makes you superior or more deserving than those of another country. The fact is that the idea of nationality, and nations are totally artificial concepts, which divide people based on arbitarary borders, and fake symbolism.
                    "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by VetLegion
                      Great avatar skywalker


                      I think that's the seventh time

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                      • #56
                        Nationalism is the false sense that being part of a country actually makes you superior or more deserving than those of another country.
                        No, not really. You can be a nationalist and yet support the nationalism of another country's people quite easily.

                        The fact is that the idea of nationality, and nations are totally artificial concepts, which divide people based on arbitarary borders, and fake symbolism.
                        To be a part of something, you have to create an exclusion. The stronger the exclusion, the more you feel part of it.
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                        • #57
                          Of course there can be good nationalism. It's called patriotism.
                          CSPA

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                          • #58
                            Patriotism is a handy tool to persuade people to get themselves killed for no good reason.
                            Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                            Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                            We've got both kinds

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                            • #59
                              like wilfred owen says.
                              B♭3

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                              • #60
                                "Of course there can be good nationalism. It's called patriotism."

                                What distinguishes forms of nationalism from patriotism?
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