The multi-issue "Where does Apolyton stand?" poll

[Jaguar]

The idea is that you vote for one option from each set of two, but you don't have to vote that way if you don't want. Vote for what closest matches your beliefs. And if in doubt, for example, on the abortion question: Consider it to be the US we're talking about. Otherwise we'll get skewed results from people in countries with different stances on it.

[Jaguar]

Oh, and for the last 4 options, you can vote for any one of the first three, and then either vote or don't vote on the last one.

[Jaguar]

He he he, three conservatives so far, zero liberals.

Except none of the conservatives so far have been very hardcore.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

The problem is, these aren't one-side-or-the-other issues. For instance, I feel that the government should seperate itself more from embracing any particular religion or religions, yet I feel that faith-based programs have as much right to be federally funded as secular programs.

That being said...good thread

[Jaguar]

I tried to break issues down as much as possible, but there are far more than a dozen different things we debate.

[RGBVideo]

I'll list my answers right here so I can later on compare them on the opinions I'll have in the future -- it can be interesting to notice what ideals have changed, and why (the data is much safer in here than in my HD.
- Government should do less wealth redistribution
- Government needs to take over some things that are done by the private sector
- The private sector needs to take over things currently done by the government
- Government should regulate the private sector more
- Government should do more to protect the environment
- The government needs to further separate itself from religion
- The death penalty should be used under some circumstances
- Abortion rights should be expanded
- Government should illegalize things like that ("things like that": marijuana etc.)
- Police can limit rights in favor of national security
- Government should allow civil unions only
- Gay couples should be allowed to adopt

[Guynemer]

Government needs to take over some things that are done by the private sector

AND

The private sector needs to take over things currently done by the government

are not mutually exclusive, and I agree with both of those statements.

[Kuciwalker]

Government should do less wealth redistribution
The private sector needs to take over things currently done by the government
The death penalty should be used under some circumstances
Government should illegalize things like that
Police can limit rights in favor of national security
Western countries should try to spread democratic ideology throughout the world
Government should allow gay marriage
Gay couples should be allowed to adopt

[Kirnwaffen]

I screwed up on one section. Should have voted for the government needs to separate itself from religion. I believe that the government needs to be secular, but should not shy away from working with faith based charities.

[OzzyKP]

Hmm, this is difficult for me. I can agree with things on both sides of many of those issues. Like "Western countries should try to spread democratic ideology throughout the world" Yes I agree with this statement, as stated.

However its probably meant to mean things like the invasion of Iraq, which I disagree with. As it doesn't say how the ideology should be spread, I'm not sure what to think.

"Western democracies should leave the ROW alone "

I agree with this too. But some anti-globalization folks could take this to mean we stop trading with the rest of the world and cage Mickey Mouse. This I'd disagree with.

[Spiffor]

I went into hardcore leftist mode on this one.

The only thing where I should haven't voted at all is on the "democracy around the world" question. I think western countries should spread the ideals of democracy around the world, but I think such process should be subtle, and certainly not through bloodbath.

[OzzyKP]

Sorry to piss on your poll, neighbor.

[Ned]

There is a problem about the privacy question. I would never agree to let police limit my rights in favor of national security. But I would a court - as is permitted under the law today. The police do not have a free hand in the US. Do they have a free hand outside the US for national security reasons without having to get permission from a judge?

[connorkimbro]

The problem is, these aren't one-side-or-the-other issues. For instance, I feel that the government should seperate itself more from embracing any particular religion or religions, yet I feel that faith-based programs have as much right to be federally funded as secular programs.

I agree with this as well. That's why I voted for both options.

oh yes, i was VERY bothered by the lack of an option to vote for "Government should nationalize Banana Farms"

[cinch]

Mine:

Government should do more to protect the environment
The government needs to further separate itself from religion
The death penalty should not be used under any circumstances
People should have more personal freedom (ie to smoke marijuana)
The individual needs more privacy from the government, more trial rights, etc
Western democracies should leave the ROW alone
Government should allow gay marriage
Gay couples should be allowed to adopt


Any "couplet" that I didn't comment on is something that I feel is "fine" at the moment, and needs no increasing or decreasing.

Yup.