USA and France to reconcile?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Unfortunately, people like Spiffor are way too clever, reasonable, and free-thinking to ever pass on an American public channel (and most TV channels everywhere). Once you realise this, you'll question how dangerous can free-market media be to democracy and public interest.

It's safe to assume that more people than you would believe are like him; unfortunately, they are confined to universities. Even now, though I don't remember the exact name, some crazy right-wingers have created an "university watch" program to make sure these people can't get heard. Scary.

From what I read about it, it looked to me like those professors weren't teaching - they were preaching. In that case, they should be fired, because they aren't doing their job.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by skywalker
From what I read about it, it looked to me like those professors weren't teaching - they were preaching. In that case, they should be fired, because they aren't doing their job.

About 80% of uni teachers in soft sciences should be fired then. And you'd be surprised to see how many preaching ideologues on your side would be on the dole.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Heh, I don't know what University you went too, but they are anything but reasonable. Especially civilian colleges, and thank God I avoided that minefield.

-Pat

Oh yes, great institution of learning are so unreasonable. I guess only Martial schools can teach the truth...

[GePap]

Professors aren't teachers..slight difference in mission. Professors have every right to air their opinions- I am sure Aristotle once or twice mentioned his opinions when tutoring Alexander.

It is for the student to have the intelliegence and integroity to take the facts they do learn and make opinions. If a student in a sheep, there is nothing to be done for them.

[Patroklos]

Heh, martial schools normally have better things to do than practice mental masterbation, which is all civilian profesors seem to do period. We simply have to stay practcal, becasue besides all the political theory, which we do get as well, we are already training for an actual job.

-Pat

[GePap]

So do schools for mechanics and the DeVry institute.

"metal masturbation" gave you all those cool little toys to play with. If it where only up to "practical education" we would still be sending out the cavalry in horses.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Spiffor
But above all, I wouldn't take any significant action before June, when the electoral season has stopped. Chirac had 80% support during the Iraq diplomacy crisis for a reason, and I wouldn't imagine he'll waste it before difficult elections.

June is too late, if things go at all well for the coalition - by then the political process should be fairly far along, and there will be less chance to influence the situation in Iraq, if that is what France really wants to do. If they just to want to help Bush get reelected in exchange for dinars, thats another thing.

[germanos]

Originally posted by MrFun
I'm surprised other Americans have not demolished the Statue of Liberty yet.

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
The ones most likely to do that are the very ones least likely to know who built it.

France did

[Q Classic]

So do schools for mechanics and the DeVry institute.

"metal masturbation" gave you all those cool little toys to play with. If it where only up to "practical education" we would still be sending out the cavalry in horses.

spoken like a true grad.

[Patroklos]

heh,

It is our demand that gives you all jobs, basically all the techno engo geeks, as educated as they are, are still service jobs. Glorified house handimen. And most of the inovators (ie not the myriad of "doctorates" crunching numbers behind a cubical) in those fields either had their tuition or grants paid for by the military or are ex-military themselves. You don't think we need that many of you to design flat screen TVs do you?

whoa, way OT, so rebut if you want but I will stop trolling now

-Pat

[GePap]

The military-industrial complex is only 60 years old. back in 1920 there were no such things as "military reseach" grants worht that much.

The very fact you guys got into internal combustion driven vehicles is the result of the mental masturbators. That newton fellow..he had no military grant..neither did that Nobel fellow, or that Einstein fellow, or that heisenberg nut, or Mr. Edison or the list is endless.

The very existance of a military-industrial complex is the result of the type of thinking professors make possible.

So there

[Patroklos]

Professors back then are hardly the abominations that now inhabit thier holes in the universities of today.

-Pat

[DAVOUT]

Well said Gepap. We are the ungrateful and undeserving heirs of giants.

[GePap]

Are you kidding me? Do you think professors back in 1914 were any less adamant? I can just imagine all those profs. in germany, and France, and the UK, and Russia giving their totally impartial, measured opinions..
if anything, professors are LESS opinionated cause education is becoming more a consumer good every day.

[Bereta_Eder]

I think this will reach the point of going if there's enough loot unfortunately...


Previously in order to get others to share the loot, there were pressures to get the UN involved. This way contracts and aid would be adminitered from there.