Sean Hannity, the Pledge, and Christmas

[Berzerker]

Imran, parents aren't reciting the pledge. This is what I just said:

a minority is denying the majority it's right to recite the pledge, according to Hannity.

I don't know how you interpreted that to mean parents and not the students actually reciting the pledge.

[Berzerker]

And from my opening post"

But why does Hannity claim we can't let the minority exclude "under God" from the pledge because the majority of children want to recite those words but now the majority of these 7 year olds must be over-ruled by the minority?

[Imran Siddiqui]

I don't know how you interpreted that to mean parents and not the students actually reciting the pledge.

The majority's right to 'recite the pledge' is talking about the parents wanting their kids to recite the pledge. Always. It never refers to the kids wanting to recite the pledge. They don't even know what it means.

And from my opening post"

That statement seemed like mere editorialization.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Originally posted by GePap
one nation under Zeus?

One nation, under the Constitution...

[Berzerker]

Imran

The majority's right to 'recite the pledge' is talking about the parents wanting their kids to recite the pledge.

No, the majority of students, not parents. When Hannity says a minority are denying the majority it's right to recite the pledge, he's talking about the people who are actually reciting the pledge - the students.

They don't even know what it means.

Depends on the ages and intelligence of the students, but so what? Your right to speak or recite a word doesn't depend on knowing what the word means.

That statement seemed like mere editorialization.

You said I never mentioned that it was the students Hannity was referring to and I quoted myself twice to prove you wrong.
Now you want to change the debate to whether or not I was editorialising?

I wasn't...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Your right to speak or recite a word doesn't depend on knowing what the word means.

Well if you don't know what you are saying what does it matter if it is protected. You aren't going to really care.

You said I never mentioned that it was the students Hannity was referring to and I quoted myself twice to prove you wrong.

No, I said there was no proof in this thread that Hannity was refering to the majority refering to the students in both cases... my original post after all said:

When did Hannity ever say...

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I heard that!

You have Polydar... anything about homosexuals/gay and you are on it like butter on toast... or something .

No, it's just that someone has to take the responsibility to keep tabs on you -- you've become known as quite the trouble-maker here on Apolyton.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov


One nation, under the Constitution...

Nah, far too civic and sensible a matter! Under Lord Zargon IV of Remulax!

[Berzerker]

Well if you don't know what you are saying what does it matter if it is protected. You aren't going to really care.

And if you do understand then reciting a pledge that conflicts with your beliefs violates the right of conscience.

No, I said there was no proof in this thread that Hannity was refering to the majority refering to the students in both cases... my original post after all said:

When did Hannity ever say...

Ah, sorry, I can only report what I've heard Hannity say on a number of occasions.

[civman2000]

My version of the pledge:
I pledge no allegiance to the flag of the United States of America nor to the plutocracy for which it stands, one nations, ignoring its constitution, quite divided, with liberty and justice for the rich.

[Sava]

Imran... it's spelled... HYPOCRISY!

but I agree with most posters here... there are better examples of Hannity hypocrisy. C'mon Berz, why listen to the guy if you think he's a hypocrit?